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      "body": "2017-07-04 15:16:13     Patryn\n        We fell nearly 1%. This must be the big crash.\n\n2017-07-15 14:16:10     Patryn\n        There are actually hundreds of legit waterfront homes in Brooklyn. It's amazing how often people screw up that joke.\n\n2017-07-15 15:17:15     Patryn\n        glad I loaded up on shorts during that bounce. Those 45k, 50k, and 20k sales were mine. Planning to start going long around 1980\n\n2017-07-15 15:17:58     Patryn\n        Seems like another GS self-fulfilling prophecy. Not the first time. Crash should end before 1850, then bounce.\n\n2017-07-15 15:18:45     Patryn\n        The profit that i've made from predicting where to catch the falling knife is more of a favour than the stress of having to keep cost averaging down.\n\n2017-07-15 15:19:27     Patryn\n        60% of the time, he's right every time.\n\n2017-07-15 15:20:42     Patryn\n        Lets touch 1980 first so I can switch to long.\n\n2017-07-15 15:21:16     Patryn\n        It's the blood of crypto holders who just lost their newfound fortunes.\n\n2017-07-15 19:12:31     Patryn\n        If you need 2 to get laid, you have bigger problems, buddy\n\n2017-07-15 19:12:51     Patryn\n        lol\n\n2017-07-27 23:38:58     Patryn\n        Most probably, dude. I'm going all in\n\n2017-07-27 23:39:56     Patryn\n        I'm actually shorting this rise, expecting to close my position on a short term dip..\n\n2017-07-30 06:31:20     Patryn\n        3% freefall\n\n2017-07-30 12:27:13     Patryn\n        My understanding is that bitmex won't be providing bcc to those with btc on the platform. So our BTC becomes BCS only. BCC is currently trading at 12% the value of BTC, so we are expected, in a perfect market, to see a 12% drop in two days.\n\n2017-07-30 18:02:38     Patryn\n        Yeah i'm not liking this random wave.\n\n2017-07-30 18:02:49     Patryn\n        Lot of people also have their coins off exchanges now, waiting.\n\n2017-07-30 18:02:57     Patryn\n        No volume on stamp or bfx\n\n2017-07-30 18:04:22     Patryn\n        Nice premium im an hour\n\n2017-07-30 18:06:23     Patryn\n        No volume or depth. Stamp can be moved $10 with a couple of coins\n\n2017-07-30 18:06:32     Patryn\n        and just was\n\n2017-07-31 01:08:43     Patryn\n        Under 3% for two months. Not too crazy. Usually a positive premium tho\n\n2017-07-31 01:09:42     Patryn\n        Bitmex isn't giving us BCC, and BCC is trading at 12% bitcoin value on other futures exchanges, so it makes sense that most of us expect a price drop of the core chain.\n\n2017-07-31 01:10:31     Patryn\n        With some conspiracy thinking thrown in: The BCC split is already priced in, and we're about to see an epic short squeeze.\n\n2017-07-31 01:12:04     Patryn\n        On BitMex, our xbt does not contain BCC (won't be given to us). I'm thinking priced in on individual exchanges, not globally.\n\n2017-07-31 01:12:26     Patryn\n        Is kraken actually trading at a $60 premium though? Keep in mind that kraken takes 10-15 minutes to process a market order during movement like todays. I wonder if you can actually sell for that premium.\n\n2017-07-31 01:13:30     Patryn\n        Rado: No, check reddit. Literally hundreds of client complaints, people losing money left and right over this.\n\n2017-07-31 01:13:44     Patryn\n        arbee: Good point, plus arb would make it difficult as exchanges are still relatively close to each other globally.\n\n2017-07-31 01:15:02     Patryn\n        BCC is trading $325 on okcoin, etc. Shitcoin or not, a 12% bonus is a 12% bonus.\n\n2017-07-31 01:15:33     Patryn\n        Once the fork is complete, i'll move my coins back here.\n\n2017-07-31 01:16:26     Patryn\n        Problem is now with substantially fewer coins on the exchange, my leverage is much higher than i'm used to. At risk of pretty serious rekt... assuming i'm not the only one. We might see some fun liquidations soon.\n\n2017-07-31 11:41:13     Patryn\n        okex is a great place to trade BCC Futures now. Trading at around 12% btc value right now\n\n2017-07-31 11:42:42     Patryn\n        OKEX stopped deposits and withdrawals for three days.\n\n2017-07-31 11:44:36     Patryn\n        elmorte: Click on "spot" when you login to OKEX.com. THey just stopped it, but you were able to trade BCC against BTC.\n\n2017-07-31 11:44:48     Patryn\n        And until it stopped, it was trading at 12%+ BTC value.\n\n2017-07-31 11:45:23     Patryn\n        You were able to split your BTC into BCS and BCC on the exchange, then trade them against each other.\n\n2017-07-31 11:47:53     Patryn\n        What i'm confused about is the value, and exchanges stance. The market has already pegged a value of 12%+ for BCC, or $330. Those with coins on exchange like bitmex will not get the BCC, so we have to either consider that the price of BTC here will drop by 12% and we should all be short, or it's already priced in and we're missing out on 12% free money.\n\n2017-07-31 11:50:10     Patryn\n        Bitmex seemed quite clear that it won't. "prolly in a few months" isn't the best basis for a financial decision. If many in the community are correct about it being a useless shitcoin, the 12% could be 1% by then.\n\n2017-07-31 11:51:22     Patryn\n        Not saying you're wrong about them changing their minds in a few months amid outcry of dissatisfied clients, just saying it could be too late.\n\n2017-07-31 11:55:27     Patryn\n        Skitrx: Why idiots? It's a great way to get free BCC if you're holding fiat.\n\n2017-07-31 11:56:12     Patryn\n        Skitrx: The majority of these people have very high margin, 3000+ won't be a problem.\n\n2017-07-31 11:56:14     Patryn\n        Buy coins using fiat, margin short on BFX\n\n2017-07-31 11:56:26     Patryn\n        They're able to short at 1:1\n\n2017-07-31 11:56:33     Patryn\n        Lock in value of USD, get free BCC.\n\n2017-07-31 11:57:23     Patryn\n        You wouldn't get much more if the price per bitcoin dropped, the short hedges your USD.\n\n2017-07-31 11:58:18     Patryn\n        stems: Say you have 100k USD sitting around in fiat, waiting for the bitcoin debacle to end as you have no idea where the price will go. Instead, you purchase 100k USD worth of coins on bitfinex at spot. Then you do a margin short position for the exact same number of coins.\n\n2017-07-31 11:58:43     Patryn\n        You lock in your coins value at $100k, no price movement will change your value due to the short position. However, bitfinex will give you free BCC.\n\n2017-07-31 11:59:15     Patryn\n        Binbbongfly: They have confirmed that they will.\n\n2017-07-31 11:59:54     Patryn\n        bingbongfly: Your quote does not refute my statement. Stating that the amount may not be 1:1 is not the same as saying that they will not be distributing the coins.\n\n2017-07-31 12:00:09     Patryn\n        No, you will not get 0\n\n2017-07-31 12:00:44     Patryn\n        The probability of 0 is negligable. I'd say a larger risk is counterparty, due to BFX being BFX. As such, i did the same but borrowed some BTC and took most of mine off chain. I've got a $3800 liquidation price.\n\n2017-07-31 12:01:49     Patryn\n        stems: My shorts in BFX insure my fiat, so i'm not really concerned about the price. If you're asking about my entry for liquidation purposes, it's $2703 entry.\n\n2017-07-31 12:02:21     Patryn\n        I'm paying a pretty high swap rate to borrow those bitcoins, 0.3% per day, but that'll only be for another dayish.\n\n2017-07-31 12:03:11     Patryn\n        Slightly_Favored: We'd have to spike by nearly 40% in a day for me to get liquidated, then crash back down for that to matter. Not really concerned.\n\n2017-07-31 12:03:38     Patryn\n        The ratio isn't about longs:shorts, we are currently estimating 80%, not 30%\n\n2017-07-31 12:04:33     Patryn\n        If you margin short on BFX, you lock in your USD value.\n\n2017-07-31 12:04:50     Patryn\n        I'm describing a strategy being used by those holding fiat to get free BCC on BFX. This isn't a crypto to crypto trading strategy.\n\n2017-07-31 12:08:37     Patryn\n        arbee: "Note that if there's 60% the longs compared to shorts, that does not mean that you're getting 60% the BCH. You need to figure out the net liability of the system. f you need 20k BCH from the system to pay the shorters, and there's 100k btc on bitfinex then the you'll be getting 8 BCH on 10 BTC. So what matters is the net shorts vs longs in nominal terms, not the ratio."\n\n2017-07-31 12:09:02     Patryn\n        Current estimate is 80%.\n\n2017-07-31 12:09:20     Patryn\n        Keep in mind, my strategy is free BCC vs holding fiat. This strategy will give you more risk-free money than holding fiat.\n\n2017-07-31 12:10:34     Patryn\n        A lot of people are holding fiat, waiting for the dust to settle. Uncertainly of the split, possible devaluation due to current futures value of BCC, plenty of reason. You've made a decision to enter a trade, others are holding on the sidelines waiting. This strategy will give them superior gains to holding fiat.\n\n2017-07-31 12:15:06     Patryn\n        Looks like bcc is down to 9.5% on viaBTC.\n\n2017-07-31 12:16:10     Patryn\n        elozar: Seems like viabtc/okex were a great deal, then. Will be interesting to see what happened.\n\n2017-07-31 12:16:14     Patryn\n        *happens\n\n2017-07-31 12:16:54     Patryn\n        I could wait the day or two of coin lockup for that much of a free money bonus.\n\n2017-07-31 12:17:03     Patryn\n        Unlikely to increase my stash by 12% by trading during those two days.\n\n2017-07-31 12:17:29     Patryn\n        aron: The strategy involves a margin short, it still works perfectly if BTC crashes tomorrow. In fact, it works better if BTC crashes tomorrow, otherwise you'd be better off without the short.\n\n2017-07-31 12:18:12     Patryn\n        viaBTC and okex were the larger exchanges offering BCC futures. OKEX has stopped it today.\n\n2017-07-31 12:18:45     Patryn\n        arbee: Not ignoring you. Don't have access to the link right now, looking while trying to manage a few close-to-liquidation trades.\n\n2017-07-31 12:19:30     Patryn\n        arbee: Closed the tab before you asked for it. Usually work with a dozen tabs open, constantly opening/closing.\n\n2017-07-31 12:21:16     Patryn\n        aron: Not sure. Most exchanges seem to have halted, or are in the process of halting deposits as we speak.\n\n2017-07-31 13:48:32     Patryn\n        Margin spot exchange there, this is a futures platform\n\n2017-08-01 01:41:08     Patryn\n        They claimed their position.\n\n2017-08-01 01:42:00     Patryn\n        Looks like we're closer to 1:1 BCC distribution on BFX now.\n\n2017-08-01 11:31:19     Patryn\n        a real trader would consider trading to be going to work\n\n2017-08-02 03:16:40     Patryn\n        arbee: Quarterly is still at a discount, mex is definitely not bullish. There's a $10 premium coming in 43 minutes, hence the $10 premium on swap.\n\n2017-08-02 13:56:48     Patryn\n        Well this is cool. Received 0% of my coins on BFX as bcash\n\n2017-08-02 13:56:56     Patryn\n        hmmmYea: It is a thing, on okex etc.\n\n2017-08-02 13:57:35     Patryn\n        Bitmex isn't supporting bcash. Why would they allow bcash futures when they won't even credit our bcash coins?\n\n2017-08-02 13:58:20     Patryn\n        You not understanding != my statement not making sense.\n\n2017-08-02 13:58:28     Patryn\n        Creating a new trading pair, maintaining and implementing it, takes more work.\n\n2017-08-02 13:59:13     Patryn\n        Your welcome. As an exchange founder who is crediting bcash, I have a bit of insight.\n\n2017-08-02 13:59:21     Patryn\n        *You're\n\n2017-08-02 13:59:54     Patryn\n        We're crediting and allowing withdrawals of bcash today. Not allowing trading anytime soon, much bigger can of worms.\n\n2017-08-02 14:01:01     Patryn\n        Do you honestly DGAF now that the conversation isn't going your way, or am I expected to continue now that you're posting post-DGAF follow ups? You're a waste of time.\n\n2017-08-02 14:01:06     Patryn\n        bullwhale: Quadriga\n\n2017-08-02 14:01:47     Patryn\n        viaBTC seems to be accepting BCH deposits, but the number of confirmations required could take a day or two.\n\n2017-08-02 14:02:03     Patryn\n        MrRGnome: Scroll up. I said that I am the founder of Quadriga, not that I "Work for" Them.\n\n2017-08-02 14:02:59     Patryn\n        I Take pride in the 75% market share and $1M per month of revenue.\n\n2017-08-02 14:03:18     Patryn\n        Support could use some improvement, as is the case with most exchanges.\n\n2017-08-02 14:07:38     Patryn\n        hmmmyea: I believe that most exchanges will be listing it shortly due to demand. Everyone has it and now wants to trade it.\n\n2017-08-02 14:09:28     Patryn\n        The spike today shows quite a few buyers.\n\n2017-08-02 14:10:02     Patryn\n        arbee: Yes. I waited until the first bcash block was mined, safe now.\n\n2017-08-02 14:10:46     Patryn\n        Looks like bcash up to 0.26. Was at 0.08 last night.\n\n2017-08-02 14:12:06     Patryn\n        I turned fiat into a margin short on bfx. Got no bcash. Gotta love when exchange owners change their minds about crediting funds AFTER THE FACT and make those changes retroactive.\n\n2017-08-02 14:14:59     Patryn\n        arbee: It was a small short, around 200 coins. Was much larger here.\n\n2017-08-02 14:15:30     Patryn\n        I'm glad that I didn't have 1:1 collateral for it. At least I got bcash for the coins I withdrew.\n\n2017-08-02 14:17:42     Patryn\n        arbee: A guy "claimed" like a 20k coin short. Compared to people like that, yeah, i'm small potatoes.\n\n2017-08-02 14:22:24     Patryn\n        arbee: I'm not sure if he was forced to claim it, or if it was voluntary. I wasn't given an option or any contact regarding it, but again, comparatively small potatoes.\n\n2017-08-02 14:23:34     Patryn\n        I bought some coins on BFX and placed margin short with around 1:2.5 leverage. Before the split. The coins which I had on the platform which were being used as collateral should have received the bcash... they did not.\n\n2017-08-02 14:24:00     Patryn\n        I turned some fiat into 200 bitcoins, then tried to short those 200 bitcoins on BFX.\n\n2017-08-02 14:24:29     Patryn\n        If it was a 1:1 margin ratio, i can understand some argument for possible manipulation. However, I was max leveraged, could have theoretically been liquidated. Took that risk, no upside.\n\n2017-08-02 14:25:39     Patryn\n        I exited my bfx short hours after the first bcash block was mined. Entered the position over 24h before the fork.\n\n2017-08-02 14:25:56     Patryn\n        My short position was insurance against my fiat balance, so the price didn't really matter when I was closing.\n\n2017-08-02 14:26:08     Patryn\n        *didn't matter to me\n\n2017-08-02 14:26:36     Patryn\n        No, my coins are still there.\n\n2017-08-02 14:27:20     Patryn\n        arbee: I would have done the same, but I decided that their official statement and official posts from drew could be considered trustworthy\n\n2017-08-02 14:27:40     Patryn\n        Stupid decision on my part. I'll have Stu contacted if I don't get my BCC soon.\n\n2017-08-02 14:47:31     Patryn\n        Sept premium finally disappering.\n\n2017-08-02 14:47:40     Patryn\n        Sept *discount\n\n2017-08-02 14:51:28     Patryn\n        Bunch of people in this trollbox and on reddit.\n\n2017-08-02 14:52:35     Patryn\n        I was bashed for a good 20m for deciding to take my coins off this platform for free bcash, in the trollbox. Now i have an extra six figures worth of coin while many are begging bmex for their "worthless" bcc. Hopefully it's still worth something by the time i can deposit and sell it somewhere.\n\n2017-08-02 14:53:32     Patryn\n        Seems to already be #3 for trading volume, despite deposits not being viable on any platform.\n\n2017-08-02 14:54:44     Patryn\n        A expect a ton of selling pressure at that time. We'll see how the buying side looks.\n\n2017-08-02 14:55:36     Patryn\n        I usually trade 5-10x here. I was up to 25x, and $13 away from a seven figure liquidation during the deposit/withdrawal suspension. I think I aged five years during that day.\n\n2017-08-02 14:56:13     Patryn\n        The price actually crossed my liquidation point a few minutes after deposits were re-enabled and mine went through. Was able to add margin *just* in time.\n\n2017-08-02 14:57:08     Patryn\n        Worst part is that it was on sept quarterly, so the discount turning into a premium could have liquidated me, instead of an actual spot move.\n\n2017-08-02 14:57:31     Patryn\n        Back to 5x now, slept soundly last night. Whew.\n\n2017-08-02 23:11:17     Patryn\n        Yep, waiting for exchanges to allow deposits.\n\n2017-08-02 23:12:18     Patryn\n        Numerous reports of delayed btc withdrawals and so forth, rather wait for an exchange i'm more familiar with to accept it. Plus, with the number of confirmations they require, it could take a couple of days.\n\n2017-08-04 07:25:14     Patryn\n        Confirmation times seem to have decreased substantially with BCC. Took just a few minutes for me to get two confirmations.\n\n2017-08-04 07:27:39     Patryn\n        Slightly_Favored: It is. And there's a large price spread between exchanges. I'm basically locking in the price by shorting on BFX while I wait for the bazillion confirmations needed on via and rex.\n\n2017-08-04 07:28:44     Patryn\n        Hmm. rex needs 20, why did I think the same for via. Thanks for the heads up\n\n2017-08-04 07:31:02     Patryn\n        hitbtc requires 2, but the price there is substantially lower.\n\n2017-08-04 15:08:58     Patryn\n        You can short bcc on bfx\n\n2017-08-04 15:14:18     Patryn\n        Ahhere: Yep. I've made quite a bit, shorting from this morning. For the most part, it's useful as a hedge while waiting for confirmations.\n\n2017-08-04 15:14:48     Patryn\n        BFX wants something like 20 confirmations for BCC deposits. You can simply short BCH using XBT as margin, then claim once your deposit confirms.\n\n2017-08-04 15:15:16     Patryn\n        Arbee: Still 20. I'm now at 9/20 from my deposit last night\n\n2017-08-04 15:15:25     Patryn\n        hitbtc requires 2.\n\n2017-08-04 15:16:08     Patryn\n        Made over 30% shorting from this morning.\n\n2017-08-04 15:16:36     Patryn\n        Finex.\n\n2017-08-04 15:16:48     Patryn\n        Waiting for my bcc deposits to clear\n\n2017-08-04 15:18:20     Patryn\n        15\n\n2017-08-04 15:19:18     Patryn\n        arbee: Finex also doesn't seem to list it. however, once you deposit, you see that circle counter which states 0/15 confirmations.\n\n2017-08-04 15:19:54     Patryn\n        I'll be paying around 0.25% interest for the day while waiting for confirmations. So far, that hedge has saved me 30%\n\n2017-08-04 15:21:44     Patryn\n        Nice rate.\n\n2017-08-04 19:21:13     Patryn\n        lol. 100x? 50x?\n\n2017-08-04 19:24:27     Patryn\n        Price is down less than 1%...\n\n2017-08-04 19:26:29     Patryn\n        I think we play in very different leverage sandboxes. My hair would turn grey if I had to deal with bitcoin volatility with 25-50x leverage.\n\n2017-08-04 19:28:06     Patryn\n        I trade with lower leverage.\n\n2017-08-04 19:28:24     Patryn\n        Your game is more exciting.\n\n2017-08-04 19:36:47     Patryn\n        valanity: Usually 5-10x\n\n2017-08-04 19:37:46     Patryn\n        Sleep better with lower leverage. I can't count the number of times I was awoken by a price alert last year.\n\n2017-08-04 19:38:17     Patryn\n        A 10% movement while I sleep isn't incredibly uncommon.\n\n2017-08-10 14:40:00     Patryn\n        No...\n\n2017-08-10 14:40:23     Patryn\n        You would need triggers, I don't believe that feature is available through the web interface.\n\n2017-08-10 14:42:32     Patryn\n        Self-fulfilling prophecy, not the first time we've had that with goldman sachs predictions of crypto\n\n2017-08-10 14:43:38     Patryn\n        Premium disappearing again, looks like sentiment is beariish\n\n2017-08-10 14:53:00     Patryn\n        Quarterly premium still well under 1%. Hmm.\n\n2017-08-10 14:57:00     Patryn\n        I'm pretty heavily short.\n\n2017-09-09 12:16:47     Patryn\n        Hmm. Orders placed on XBTU17 don't seem to show up in the order book.\n\n2017-09-09 12:17:00     Patryn\n        PLaced and cancelled a couple of bids, refreshes and the like.\n\n2017-09-09 12:18:32     Patryn\n        Seems like it was lag, that was one hell of a spike. All good now\n\n2017-09-09 12:20:04     Patryn\n        I'm just moving my hedges over from quarterly to perpetual\n\n2017-09-09 12:20:17     Patryn\n        PRice action choppy, i don't see a clear direction right now.\n\n2017-09-09 12:26:16     Patryn\n        want another 125k?\n\n2017-09-09 12:27:15     Patryn\n        lol\n\n2017-10-23 02:58:35     Patryn\n        Wow, look at that quarterly premium\n\n2017-10-23 03:20:27     Patryn\n        Wow, lot of liquidations for such a small % drop.\n\n2017-10-23 10:47:45     Patryn\n        Wow, there we go. Negative premium on quarterly\n\n2017-10-23 10:47:51     Patryn\n        perpetual is higher\n\n2017-10-23 10:48:25     Patryn\n        If you're expecting a rise today, looks like a great time to quarterly long\n\n2017-10-23 10:49:32     Patryn\n        I still have my massive shorts, sitting here thinking about that attractive quarterly long.\n\n2017-10-23 10:49:40     Patryn\n        Fighting sentiment can be profitable, though I suppose risky.\n\n2017-10-23 10:52:45     Patryn\n        Banks opening in a couple of hours in the states. If there's a correlation, that should be relevant.\n\n2017-10-23 10:53:46     Patryn\n        No, they go to the banks and send wires in order to fund their exchange accounts and get bitcoin. NO claims of magic involved.\n\n2017-10-23 10:55:06     Patryn\n        Bank wires usually are a one day thing for larger banks.\n\n2017-10-23 10:55:16     Patryn\n        SEPA is usually same day to one day, domestic usually same day\n\n2017-10-23 10:55:47     Patryn\n        Don't need proof, it's common sense that the average American with disposable income holds it in the bank. If said person decided to purchase bitcoin after Friday afternoon, he would have to wait until two hours from now for the banks to open in order to move fiat for purchase.\n\n2017-10-23 10:56:39     Patryn\n        Yes, I pulled common sense and facts regarding banking hours out of my ass...\n\n2017-10-23 10:58:10     Patryn\n        Facts regarding banking hours and where disposable income is held. I did not presume that this would lead to a pump.\n\n2017-10-23 10:59:26     Patryn\n        bfx usd funding rate dropped from 0.16 to 0.09 during the last few hours.\n\n2017-10-23 11:00:31     Patryn\n        angelobtc: I'm thinking the same, holding my shorts.\n\n2017-10-23 11:01:27     Patryn\n        Quarterly sentiment seems to agree. Negative premium looking super attractive to enter a long, will likely do so after a more violent correction. Lets see some larger liquidations.\n\n2017-10-24 03:06:54     Patryn\n        Every site didn't, the official BTG website and numerous others have had countdown timers.\n\n2017-10-24 03:12:32     Patryn\n        BFX was at $5543 for a sec. Futures crashed hard during that drop\n\n2017-10-24 03:13:39     Patryn\n        obviously. i'm going to mortgage my house and yolo 50x\n\n2017-10-28 10:24:31     Patryn\n        bmex won't be giving out b2x coins. They're currently trading for nearly $900. So in theory, post fork, our quarterly futures should drop by said $900. In an efficient market, of course.\n\n2017-10-28 10:27:09     Patryn\n        PenDrg0n: Look closelier, lol.\n\n2017-10-28 10:27:15     Patryn\n        Quarterly futures $5524\n\n2017-10-28 10:27:34     Patryn\n        Badbets: What do you mean by bullshit?\n\n2017-10-28 10:28:21     Patryn\n        18 days?\n\n2017-10-28 10:28:53     Patryn\n        Why $1500? B2X coins are worth around $900 right now.\n\n2017-10-28 10:29:31     Patryn\n        Badbets: You can currently trade B2x futures on other exchanges such as BitFinex. On these exchanges, you could go long on the core coin, then short here, to lock in a 10% arbitrage profit.\n\n2017-10-28 10:30:18     Patryn\n        Your reasoning is similar to that of those before BCH, who left their coins here because that "shitcoin" would have no value. I remember those same people crying on trollbox about their "stolen" shitcoin the next day.\n\n2017-10-28 10:31:15     Patryn\n        I'm assuming that those attempting to profit from the arbirtage spread or expected price gap aren't gambling with 25-50x leverage.\n\n2017-10-28 10:31:26     Patryn\n        I'm using 5x right now, fairly large positions.\n\n2017-10-28 10:31:45     Patryn\n        Upon settlement, there should be a clear 10%+ profit.\n\n2017-10-28 10:32:55     Patryn\n        5868 perpetual, 5941 quarterly\n\n2017-10-28 10:33:14     Patryn\n        $1.5M and $2.4M respectively. I'm not loving these swap funding fees.\n\n2017-10-28 10:34:44     Patryn\n        Frog: Short positions, i'm not long at the moment.\n\n2017-10-28 10:35:57     Patryn\n        @BadBets In theory, the price of index should rise at least somewhat alongside the rise of quarterly futures. If the price were to increase by $600 tomorrow, it would be around 6% higher than current index.\n\n2017-10-28 10:36:09     Patryn\n        It doesn't have to go up at the same ratio as futures.\n\n2017-10-28 10:36:48     Patryn\n        Futures will settle at index, which will lock in that arbitrage profit. Until then, there will be a bit of volatility. I Would imagine that if futures here increased by $600 without a rise of index purely due to sentiment, that even more people would be taking advantage of the now nearly 20% spread.\n\n2017-10-28 10:37:22     Patryn\n        You can trade B2X tokens against XBT on Bitfinex. So yes, same ratio increase as index.\n\n2017-10-28 10:37:54     Patryn\n        Currently 0.87 bitcoins per B2X coin\n\n2017-10-28 10:38:23     Patryn\n        bitfinex.com\n\n2017-10-28 10:39:13     Patryn\n        https://www.bitfinex.com/trading/BT1BTC\n\n2017-10-28 10:40:34     Patryn\n        I did this with about 50 coins a couple of days ago. Grabbed BC1 tokens on BFX, shorted here. Of course, there wasn't a 4% discount then.\n\n2017-10-28 10:41:14     Patryn\n        Made around 10% on the split, should make another 10% on the arb.\n\n2017-10-28 10:42:29     Patryn\n        Sure, but there's no zero involved here.\n\n2017-10-28 10:42:44     Patryn\n        Pre-sold my B2X tokens, doesn't matter if it becomes a shitcoin.\n\n2017-10-28 10:43:10     Patryn\n        You're a valuable addition to this trollbox.\n\n2017-10-28 10:43:23     Patryn\n        Such great key advice, I don't know where I would be without you\n\n2017-10-28 10:43:38     Patryn\n        Tarnation: Didn't sell all of them, just a few to play this spread.\n\n2017-10-28 10:44:37     Patryn\n        B2X happens in around 19 days. You can only trade the futures.\n\n2017-10-28 10:45:30     Patryn\n        Supporting exchanges allow you to split your XBT into BC1 and BC2 on their platform, trade futures for both chains.\n\n2017-10-28 10:45:41     Patryn\n        Upon settlement, you get the appropriate number of both coins.\n\n2017-10-28 10:45:51     Patryn\n        or upon fork\n\n2017-10-28 10:46:09     Patryn\n        No, it only requires that the ratio be similar upon settlement.\n\n2017-10-28 10:46:44     Patryn\n        They're both. You're trading said IOU's based ont he future price of a nonexistent asset.\n\n2017-10-28 10:46:54     Patryn\n        Badbets: The ratio\n\n2017-10-28 10:47:57     Patryn\n        If I buy BC1 at $5000 right now and short at $5700, I would expect a 14% spread upon settlement. Similar to my entry. If there is volatility between now and then changing the ratio, that doesn't really change my plans other than ensuring that I have enough margin to ride it out.\n\n2017-10-28 10:48:23     Patryn\n        and i'd probably wish I had beek lucky enough to take advantage of that more profitable entry.\n\n2017-10-28 10:48:53     Patryn\n        Most seem to believe the odds are incredibly low. Why do you believe them to be high?\n\n2017-10-28 10:52:03     Patryn\n        BFX TOS also seems to infer that it is extremely unlikely that only one chain survives. Seems like the only issue which separates this is the opt-in replay protection.\n\n2017-10-28 11:47:34     Patryn\n        High risk, high potential return as a contrarian investor. The short premium exists for a reason.\n\n2017-10-28 11:50:32     Patryn\n        OKEx quarterly futures also tanked\n\n2017-10-28 11:50:37     Patryn\n        $5296\n\n2017-10-28 11:50:45     Patryn\n        weekly at $5640\n\n2017-10-28 11:56:50     Patryn\n        There we go, glad I didn't switch from short to long for funding. Just dropped much more than the %\n\n2017-10-29 16:09:14     Patryn\n        Anyone else getting almost kraken-like latency issues here?\n\n2017-11-02 05:15:10     Patryn\n        Traders are giving it such a discount due to where index is coming from. There's a wide disparity between prices right now.\n\n2017-11-02 05:16:00     Patryn\n        FOMO buying on GDAX, $6988. It's $6836 on BFX.\n\n2017-11-02 05:20:08     Patryn\n        aaaqwerqwef: No, funding fees would be the issue.\n\n2017-11-02 07:14:29     Patryn\n        dwarrel: Support upside?\n\n2017-11-02 11:22:12     Patryn\n        BitMEX_Stefan: Many of us are experiencing problems with exiting trades on your system, please check again.\n\n2017-11-02 11:22:33     Patryn\n        BitMEX_Stefan: Many of us are experiencing problems with exiting trades on your system, please check again. I just received two gateway timeouts in a row when attempting to exit a position. Your slight lag is actually intense lag which is making your system unusable.\n\n2017-11-02 11:23:02     Patryn\n        ...still can't exit a position or place a trade. Consistent timeouts fro minutes.\n\n2017-11-02 11:23:39     Patryn\n        Bitmex trading engine starting to remind me of Kraken. Tech issues resulting is our loss of funds. This seems to be happening all the time now.\n\n2017-11-02 11:25:17     Patryn\n        remember_me: Could start by accepting/recognizing the problem. TElling us that there are no issues when the entire trollbox is complaining about issues isn't cool.\n\n2017-11-02 11:27:01     Patryn\n        ORder timeout, then both appear, now i can't cancel the other one. Awesome.\n\n2017-11-12 23:25:30     Patryn\n        Wow, so the current required bitmex bitcoin withdraawl fee is over $60?\n\n2017-11-12 23:26:59     Patryn\n        @ @GodBleesYou Yep, 0.0112 bitcoins.\n\n2017-12-07 11:22:34     Patryn\n        Korean market is at $17.5k\n\n2017-12-07 15:19:27     Patryn\n        Interesting. I have a 280 coin short, 68 coins margin, says 9.5x\n\n2017-12-07 15:29:20     Patryn\n        Margin "X" seems to be broken. I've got 25% margin, shows 10x\n\n2017-12-07 23:54:41     Patryn\n        A *new* lambo still costs nowhere near 10xbt. Weird site, showing prices for used lambos\n\n2017-12-10 03:18:13     Patryn\n        DarcWynd021: The swaps are taken in BTC from one side and given to the other side. BTC is not bought or sold for it, and this leverage does not come from coins being moved on market. I suggest looking up how futures actually works before giving advice.\n\n2017-12-10 03:23:02     Patryn\n        lol\n\n2017-12-10 04:05:38     Patryn\n        xmr crashing, mymonero down with sync issues. People having difficulty selling\n\n2017-12-10 04:08:13     Patryn\n        system overloaded again :(\n\n2017-12-22 03:20:56     Patryn\n        Would be cool if I could submit an order. Success is more like 1/30 now\n\n2017-12-22 03:24:14     Patryn\n        More like $200 jump on spot. A futures jump when the system is overloaded isn't the best indicator.\n\n2017-12-22 03:26:48     Patryn\n        lol "never short bitcoin" right after a 32% drop\n\n2017-12-22 03:27:17     Patryn\n        The real lesson is don't short bitcoin with excessive leverage.\n\n2017-12-22 08:34:04     Patryn\n        March premium has been cut in half\n\n2017-12-22 08:34:06     Patryn\n        Was 13% a few days ago\n\n2017-12-22 14:34:46     Patryn\n        CME cirtcuit breakers supposed to kick in at 20%, no?\n\n2017-12-26 04:39:27     Patryn\n        I wonder when bmex plans on reducing the withdrawal fee. Still looking at $100.\n\n2017-12-26 04:40:12     Patryn\n        A 0.0065xbt fee is not necessary for reasonable confirmation. It is higher than the fee on any other exchange that I can find.\n\n2017-12-26 04:40:54     Patryn\n        0.0065xbt isn't $41...\n\n2017-12-26 04:41:34     Patryn\n        bundabrg: Gotcha. Thanks.\n\n2017-12-26 05:16:29     Patryn\n        Just opened a short. Expecting a dip or sufficient choppiness from here to close in the short term.\n\n2017-12-28 15:49:58     Patryn\n        Nice being a moron shorter when the price is trending downwards.",
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      "body": "2016-05-06 13:22:06     Patryn\n        Question: My entry price in XBTU16 is $581. Market price, $561. My unrealized PNL is in the negative... a $20 dip in my favour isn't enough to generate a profit?\n\n2016-05-06 13:24:04     Patryn\n        Gotcha, thanks.\n\n2016-05-28 22:18:28     Patryn\n        Yeah, I got liquidated hard on OKC futures\n\n2016-05-28 22:18:34     Patryn\n        Tried sending some deposits. No confirmations for over an hour.\n\n2016-05-28 22:18:54     Patryn\n        Liquidated at 572, it's 575 now. Would be nice to be able to add some coins at some point.\n\n2016-05-29 13:09:48     Patryn\n        When I place a trade, what is the estimated liquidation price in the pop up box? It's nowhere near the estimated liquidation price in my position box...\n\n2016-05-29 13:10:31     Patryn\n        It isn't merely adjusting for the potential order. It's also several hundred away if i place a one contract order.\n\n2016-05-29 13:13:33     Patryn\n        So the one in my positions section is accurate?\n\n2016-05-29 13:13:44     Patryn\n        Seems more accurate than the pop up one\n\n2016-05-29 13:14:44     Patryn\n        lol\n\n2016-06-13 15:21:13     Patryn\n        QQ\n\n2016-06-13 15:21:24     Patryn\n        Got liquidated near the top, rode that bitch for nearly $200.\n\n2016-06-15 08:49:43     Patryn\n        How is the "mark price" calculated? Wondering about this $175 spread for Quarterly.\n\n2016-06-15 08:50:33     Patryn\n        thank you\n\n2016-06-15 09:20:10     Patryn\n        lol\n\n2016-06-15 09:25:58     Patryn\n        ∞\n\n2016-06-15 09:27:02     Patryn\n        It's the infiniti symbol on my screen.\n\n2016-06-15 09:27:09     Patryn\n        infinity*\n\n2016-06-15 09:27:48     Patryn\n        U+221E",
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      "body": "2014-12-22 02:48:41     Patryn\n        I don't see anything about verification here?\n\n2014-12-22 02:48:58     Patryn\n        Love the "references" section btw.\n\n2014-12-22 02:55:02     Patryn\n        Yeah\n\n2014-12-22 02:55:56     Patryn\n        Interesting. How is a contract calculated? Doesn't seem to be $100?\n\n2014-12-22 02:56:21     Patryn\n        Are they different? It just asks "quantity" and price.\n\n2014-12-22 02:56:51     Patryn\n        I don't see it stating XBU or XBT\n\n2014-12-22 02:56:59     Patryn\n        aha\n\n2014-12-22 02:57:00     Patryn\n        ah\n\n2014-12-22 02:57:21     Patryn\n        XBTH15, one contract $1.15?\n\n2014-12-22 02:57:41     Patryn\n        $1.\n\n2014-12-22 02:58:04     Patryn\n        Looks like gross value 0.0032 XBT for 1 contract of XBTH15\n\n2014-12-22 02:58:53     Patryn\n        Am I looking at this wrong? 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I find this a bit confusing.\n\n2014-12-22 03:07:25     Patryn\n        Right, i'm wondering how much profit as the "quantity" contract doesn't seem to correlate to anything that I see.\n\n2014-12-22 03:08:46     Patryn\n        Say I purchase 3.55 bitcoins at $320 on an exchange at spot right now, and then short 1000 units at $355 on XBTH15, am I pretty much guaranteed $35/coin in March unless you fold?.\n\n2014-12-22 03:09:00     Patryn\n        So roughly $100 profit after all fees?\n\n2014-12-22 03:11:13     Patryn\n        Sounds like another guide could be written for double futures + swap earnings.\n\n2014-12-22 03:11:51     Patryn\n        30% here, 30% to hedge this on another futures exchange, rest in swaps... at least until the arb is gone.\n\n2014-12-22 03:18:51     Patryn\n        Longest confirmations ever\n\n2014-12-22 03:19:03     Patryn\n        haha\n\n2014-12-22 03:36:15     Patryn\n        25m and counting, no confirmations. 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