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VOTING POWER100.00%
DOWNVOTE POWER100.00%
RESOURCE CREDITS100.00%
REPUTATION PROGRESS0.00%
Net Worth
0.007USD
STEEM
0.000STEEM
SBD
0.000SBD
Effective Power
5.001SP
├── Own SP
0.125SP
└── Incoming Deleg
+4.876SP

Detailed Balance

STEEM
balance
0.000STEEM
market_balance
0.000STEEM
savings_balance
0.000STEEM
reward_steem_balance
0.000STEEM
STEEM POWER
Own SP
0.125SP
Delegated Out
0.000SP
Delegation In
4.876SP
Effective Power
5.001SP
Reward SP (pending)
0.000SP
SBD
sbd_balance
0.000SBD
sbd_conversions
0.000SBD
sbd_market_balance
0.000SBD
savings_sbd_balance
0.000SBD
reward_sbd_balance
0.000SBD
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Account Info

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id930870
rank388,883
reputation28220277
created2018-04-11T00:02:27
recovery_accountsteem
proxyNone
post_count12
comment_count0
lifetime_vote_count0
witnesses_voted_for0
last_post2018-05-06T18:55:03
last_root_post2018-04-26T19:53:00
last_vote_time2018-05-04T17:22:36
proxied_vsf_votes0, 0, 0, 0
can_vote1
voting_power0
delayed_votes0
balance0.000 STEEM
savings_balance0.000 STEEM
sbd_balance0.000 SBD
savings_sbd_balance0.000 SBD
vesting_shares203.863402 VESTS
delegated_vesting_shares0.000000 VESTS
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reward_vesting_balance0.000000 VESTS
vesting_balance0.000 STEEM
vesting_withdraw_rate0.000000 VESTS
next_vesting_withdrawal1969-12-31T23:59:59
withdrawn0
to_withdraw0
withdraw_routes0
savings_withdraw_requests0
last_account_recovery1970-01-01T00:00:00
reset_accountnull
last_owner_update1970-01-01T00:00:00
last_account_update2018-04-11T00:05:45
minedNo
sbd_seconds0
sbd_last_interest_payment1970-01-01T00:00:00
savings_sbd_last_interest_payment1970-01-01T00:00:00
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Withdraw Routes

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From Date
To Date
steemdelegated 4.876 SP to @labledger
2026/05/18 02:45:12
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
vesting shares7939.796404 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #106146434/Trx d3a23951dbb230c8e584a252e584887539d3e96a
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steemdelegated 3.210 SP to @labledger
2026/05/12 13:56:27
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
vesting shares5227.585999 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #105987805/Trx 058973d8e7fa6f72dea977ff9b9731236702d936
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steemdelegated 4.884 SP to @labledger
2026/04/26 02:02:09
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
vesting shares7952.312160 VESTS
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steemdelegated 3.236 SP to @labledger
2026/01/23 14:29:24
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
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steemdelegated 3.337 SP to @labledger
2024/12/17 09:44:03
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
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steemdelegated 3.441 SP to @labledger
2023/11/14 01:26:03
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
vesting shares5602.485547 VESTS
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steemdelegated 5.244 SP to @labledger
2023/09/22 00:46:03
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
vesting shares8539.764333 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #78351344/Trx 75de39051602ad859fd160bb15a63f5de46c8242
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steemdelegated 5.381 SP to @labledger
2022/11/03 14:11:48
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
vesting shares8761.445771 VESTS
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steemdelegated 5.516 SP to @labledger
2022/01/17 17:30:57
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
vesting shares8981.680907 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #60817247/Trx 37eea9496ffe18eb21eb33cadb45676a2fbf5a1f
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steemdelegated 5.629 SP to @labledger
2021/06/14 03:04:12
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
vesting shares9165.747660 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #54610414/Trx 23277c4a96dbd2306a9f9eb0ba98628df291455f
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steemdelegated 5.744 SP to @labledger
2020/12/11 13:20:09
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
vesting shares9353.169634 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #49357788/Trx c3cbf8ea935794ff38206094ef07b876d0e9e314
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steemdelegated 1.175 SP to @labledger
2020/12/06 06:56:39
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
vesting shares1912.543513 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #49209334/Trx 43883cefc89a6c2e2a8dd308769e2ce03bb036f7
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steemdelegated 5.748 SP to @labledger
2020/12/05 16:58:06
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
vesting shares9359.377488 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #49192877/Trx 7542abfb24d7a039b6962799305dfd06486aae56
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steemdelegated 1.179 SP to @labledger
2020/11/02 20:13:54
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
vesting shares1920.017158 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #48263210/Trx f16635328dc5cfd83a81f7dff285e32c53c00c32
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steemdelegated 5.872 SP to @labledger
2020/05/09 07:56:30
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
vesting shares9562.182847 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #43219616/Trx 9f8d83db5df01bf7151def8d76f198cffd5205f2
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steemdelegated 1.200 SP to @labledger
2020/05/08 11:52:21
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
vesting shares1953.311140 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #43196099/Trx 3c70cc36bcbdc66400d9e42cb9f3040517c4777a
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steemdelegated 5.974 SP to @labledger
2019/07/23 22:24:00
delegatorsteem
delegateelabledger
vesting shares9728.494630 VESTS
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2019/04/11 01:19:42
parent authorlabledger
parent permlinkthe-scientific-journal-industry-is-monopolized-and-broken-here-s-how-blockchain-can-fix-it
authorsteemitboard
permlinksteemitboard-notify-labledger-20190411t011941000z
title
bodyCongratulations @labledger! You received a personal award! <table><tr><td>https://steemitimages.com/70x70/http://steemitboard.com/@labledger/birthday1.png</td><td>Happy Birthday! - You are on the Steem blockchain for 1 year!</td></tr></table> <sub>_You can view [your badges on your Steem Board](https://steemitboard.com/@labledger) and compare to others on the [Steem Ranking](http://steemitboard.com/ranking/index.php?name=labledger)_</sub> **Do not miss the last post from @steemitboard:** <table><tr><td><a href="https://steemit.com/steemitboard/@steemitboard/the-steem-blockchain-survived-its-first-virus-plague"><img src="https://steemitimages.com/64x128/https://steemitimages.com/0x0/![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmYKnawrtqFCShyVvVs4QS7548eretcMUKQJc3D2f69pb9/image.png)"></a></td><td><a href="https://steemit.com/steemitboard/@steemitboard/the-steem-blockchain-survived-its-first-virus-plague">The Steem blockchain survived its first virus plague!</a></td></tr></table> ###### [Vote for @Steemitboard as a witness](https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/account-witness-vote?witness=steemitboard&approve=1) to get one more award and increased upvotes!
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2018/06/22 20:38:39
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2018/06/14 03:22:54
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bodySome questions I had... that might help the community to follow: Q1: Any news about this project? > Join the telegram channel ( https://t.me/LabLedger). Not sure why but I found more updates there. Q2: Is the airdrop something that will happen, or was it aborted? (found the answer on Pined message on Telegram) > From: Dave (on Telegram) > Attention community: we ran into a few legal and financial hurdles regarding the airdrop. Unfortunately, we will need to put it off for now. We hope to return with better legal and financial structure in the future. We are sorry about this.
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2018/06/14 03:18:39
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bodyAny news about this project? Is the airdrop something that will happen, or was it aborted?
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2018/05/29 15:00:12
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2018/05/29 14:59:45
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2018/05/06 19:01:12
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2018/05/06 18:55:36
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2018/05/06 18:55:03
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2018/05/05 09:09:09
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2018/05/05 09:05:42
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2018/05/05 09:04:09
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bodyYou didn't get my point at all... Reputation is what matters. Not money. If reputation can be bought / transferred... well, this is a flaw to me. Comparison with steemit? I don't see the point. Steem maybe, but not steemit in any case. But remember, Steem is not a platform for science. So you compare apples to pears. You may be good in economics, I am no one to judge that (and I have never done it). What is clear to me is that your vision of the world of science is quite far from reality. > In which case, I'd say that your opinion is in the far minority. Well if you think so... Not my problem.
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2018/05/04 21:53:42
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bodyThank you, and good luck to you as well.
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2018/05/04 21:27:03
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bodyNo idea how to elaborate that. I don't see sustainable investments into a limited-use, inflationary token with permanent selling pressure and no clear benefit for the investors happening, that's all. Steem works because it targets _everyone_, your target audience is way too small to build that kind of traction. Besides, your plan to solve problems that arise in open decentralized environments with solutions "like" a proprietary system gives me the impression that your Devil's advocate may have been a bit biased towards yourself. Time will tell I assume. Good luck with your endeavor!
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2018/05/04 21:06:36
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2018/05/04 21:05:21
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bodyWhat's the final use case of the currency that makes someone invest fiat into it? <<<< Not sure what you mean by this. Can you please elaborate? Steem Power represents more voting power. The more you have, the more influence you have over the distribution of awards. At Lab Ledger, Scholar Points (the equivalent of Steem Power) represents influence over the distribution of rewards. Users will also have a unique "Influence Score" that will be compartmentalized towards their specific field (meaning influence can't cross "subject borders". It will work very similarly to Google Pagerank. So you could think of it as a hybrid between Google Pagerank and Steemit. How are we going to prevent circle jerking? The same way Google does- paid links, particularly among centralized monopolies who hold a lot of Page Rank, hold no little to no weight. Just one example of many. Trust me: every problem running through your head we've thought of THOUSANDS of times. We've played Devil's advocate over our idea more than you possibly ever could- and that has provided us with many promising solutions. Also, if you think of anything novel that could go wrong, we'd love to hear it, but then we'll fix it and make our platform better. So please, any feedback is appreciated. As of now, we haven't heard anything new or novel, although we do appreciate the feedback.
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2018/05/04 18:12:15
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2018/05/04 18:03:51
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bodyI didn't ask where the coins come from, I asked about the money for the scientists. Someone has to pay in the end. What's the final use case of the currency that makes someone invest fiat into it? With STEEM it's STEEM POWER - which may not be transferable, but exchangeable for STEEM. My STEEM POWER reflects a monetary investment, and has nothing to do with any kind of reputation.
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2018/05/04 17:22:36
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2018/05/04 17:15:45
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2018/05/04 17:15:00
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2018/05/04 17:14:21
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bodySo, if I understand correctly: you would rather have scientists earn zero money and zero prestige for their work? Also, remember: in order to truly understand something, you must be able to explain it better than the opposing view. At this point, you know nothing about our economic model, yet, make bold claims about it's value. You mentioned you were a scientist, so I would expect a more unbiased, objective approach. If you don't believe our model can work, then you simultaneously believe that SteemIt can't work either. In which case, I'd say that opinion is in the far, far, minority.
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2018/05/04 17:11:12
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2018/05/04 17:10:39
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2018/05/04 17:10:00
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bodyHi, if you understand SteemIt, then you understand where the money comes from: inflation. Like SteemIt, we pay researchers to A) Publish scientific papers and B) Collaborate (comment) on them. Approximately 75% of LAB tokens minted will be seeded into the rewards pool. We are actually nearly identical in economic model as SteemIt, so we have a well-tested, sound economic system backing us up. Also, I think you're misunderstanding how it works: the reputation isn't a transferable token. Can you transfer Steem Power? No, you can't. Likewise, you can't transfer Scholar Points. We are utilizing the best economic system by far for incentivizing honest scientific peer review and progress. If you feel otherwise, please provide evidence and or sound reasoning.
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2018/05/03 18:29:54
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bodyWow, one more project claiming to fund science. So we're at 3 of those by now. http://deip.world http://scienceroot.com I wonder what you guys think where the money will come from. But I guess the economy of the token is a minor issue after the ICO. It does not need a token to solve the issues with publishing. The reward for a scientist is his reputation. Which is a joke if you base it on a transferable token. I got to admit, having worked on [PEvO](https://pevo.science) for nearly 2 years now I'm kinda biased, and seriously frustrated that it's not possible to get people collaborating on blockchain projects that don't include an ICO.
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2018/05/01 23:40:12
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bodyI am saying I have currently alternatives that seem preferable. For the moment and from what I read from your project, I won't change. I am however looking forward to be surprized, as I am a generally open-minded person ;)
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2018/05/01 22:43:12
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bodyIt wouldn't be a valuable use of my time to convince someone who already has their mind made up, wouldn't you agree? Assuming there isn't anything I could say to change your mind, I'll leave it at this: good luck in your endeavors, and in a year please check back on our progress and you'll be pleasantly surprised. Cheers.
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      "body": "It wouldn't be a valuable use of my time to convince someone who already has their mind made up, wouldn't you agree? Assuming there isn't anything I could say to change your mind, I'll leave it at this: good luck in your endeavors, and in a year please check back on our progress and you'll be pleasantly surprised. Cheers.",
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2018/05/01 12:29:27
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bodyI am afraid this does not answer my questions... - Why should I invest my research time in commenting articles on your platform? The question holds for any scientist. - Why should I publish something on your platform to start with? I have other (and potentially much better) alternatives. The question also holds for any scientist. Things are really not clear to me. I cannot foresee how the scientists will come to labledger and grows your database. Just like that? > The papers themselves will accumulate money that the real-world author can claim once they sign up for the site. That's just one idea we've had of many. We're also going to include bounties for solving problems in specific fields, and possibly our own version of a "Nobel Prize". This reinforces my initial thoughts. You may be slightly far off the real concerns of the scientific world (at least the part of it I know). > Hopefully you'll be one of them :) I am sorry but not for now. I have way better alternatives. Please have a look to the arxiv or scipost to start with. Your platform can't compete with these.
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      "body": "I am afraid this does not answer my questions...\n - Why should I invest my research time in commenting articles on your platform? The question holds for any scientist.\n - Why should I publish something on your platform to start with? I have other (and potentially much better) alternatives. The question also holds for any scientist. \n\nThings are really not clear to me. I cannot foresee how the scientists will come to labledger and grows your database. Just like that?\n\n> The papers themselves will accumulate money that the real-world author can claim once they sign up for the site. That's just one idea we've had of many. We're also going to include bounties for solving problems in specific fields, and possibly our own version of a \"Nobel Prize\".\n\nThis reinforces my initial thoughts. You may be slightly far off the real concerns of the scientific world (at least the part of it I know).\n\n> Hopefully you'll be one of them :)\n\nI am sorry but not for now. I have way better alternatives. Please have a look to the arxiv or scipost to start with. Your platform can't compete with these.",
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2018/05/01 00:30:48
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bodyI agree 100%. If reputation can be bought, it could possibly have a negative affect on the quality of the research being published. This is why we've been working on an economic model that mimics the real world- scientists will have to earn their reputation through commenting/collaboration or publishing. Curating won't provide you with any significant amount of influence (if any at all). They also won't be able to "buy" their reputation past a certain threshold. Also, the amount of influence that you're able to pass on will decrease proportionally as you move further and further away from your core field of expertise. So, for instance, if you're a chemist, your influence will hold less weight when commenting on a paper about developmental psychology. However, your influence will still probably hold decent weight in organic chemistry. To address your last point: how do we plan on bringing scientists to the platform? One idea that we had is publish hundreds of thousands of research papers from a database onto Lab Ledger in order to populate it with content. Once the research papers are uploaded, users can begin curating and commenting on them. The papers themselves will accumulate money that the real-world author can claim once they sign up for the site. That's just one idea we've had of many. We're also going to include bounties for solving problems in specific fields, and possibly our own version of a "Nobel Prize". We're quite motivated and we are making big connections in the scientific industry. This time next year we'll have a lot of traction and I predict we'll have many scientists on the platform. Hopefully you'll be one of them :)
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      "body": "I agree 100%. If reputation can be bought, it could possibly have a negative affect on the quality of the research being published. This is why we've been working on an economic model that mimics the real world- scientists will have to earn their reputation through commenting/collaboration or publishing. Curating won't provide you with any significant amount of influence (if any at all). They also won't be able to \"buy\" their reputation past a certain threshold. \n\nAlso, the amount of influence that you're able to pass on will decrease proportionally as you move further and further away from your core field of expertise. So, for instance, if you're a chemist, your influence will hold less weight when commenting on a paper about developmental psychology. However, your influence will still probably hold decent weight in organic chemistry. \n\nTo address your last point: how do we plan on bringing scientists to the platform? One idea that we had is publish hundreds of thousands of research papers from a database onto Lab Ledger in order to populate it with content. Once the research papers are uploaded, users can begin curating and commenting on them.\n\nThe papers themselves will accumulate money that the real-world author can claim once they sign up for the site. That's just one idea we've had of many. We're also going to include bounties for solving problems in specific fields, and possibly our own version of a \"Nobel Prize\". \n\nWe're quite motivated and we are making big connections in the scientific industry. This time next year we'll have a lot of traction and I predict we'll have many scientists on the platform.\n\nHopefully you'll be one of them :)",
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bodyReputation is very important. But if reputation can be bought, this won't work. Anyone from the outside world could come and buy his/her reputation (from how I understood how your platform is supposed to work, reputation can indeed be bought). Here, you start from zero. No well-known editors will be on board and no well-known scientists. So my question is how to attract legit scientists and how having them on board? Prestige/money is not enough. Please tell me why I should come, for instance?
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2018/04/27 18:58:48
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2018/04/27 18:57:42
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bodyHi, thanks for the reply. As far as not getting paid, that's fine. However, I would imagine that you care about your reputation, right? Similar to SteemIt, users can choose to keep their Lab Dollars vested as Scholar Points to keep their influence/reputation high. So, even if they're not getting paid with money, they're getting paid with prestige (there should be at least one present- pay or prestige). Also, we should consider: what incentivizes good peer review? At the point, it's purely impact/integrity. If someone peer reviews poorly, there's little to no resource. In Lab Ledger, if someone peer reviews poorly, they are directly hurting the network and thus, all of the Scholar Points they have vested. Thus, they are economically incentivized to peer review. Even if a scientist has all the money in the world, they will still value the influence they are able to acquire on the platform.
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2018/04/27 10:48:42
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2018/04/26 19:53:00
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body<center>![](https://i.imgsafe.org/22/22b73e3ce4.jpeg)</center> The scientific community has a serious problem on their hands. At present, they’re being extorted by a oligopoly of academic journals that are slow, expensive, biased and, as shown by the evidence, ineffective at what they do. If it sounds that bad, it’s because it is that bad. Scientific journals charge hefty price tags for their services. Between 1986 and 2003, they raised their subscription prices by a whopping 215%. Why, you ask? The simple answer: because they can. When you have total control over a market, you can charge whatever you want. Scientists and universities know it’s happening, yet, they shrug it off because there’s nothing they can do about it. Scientists have tried boycotting certain journals without much success. In 2010, the University of California tried fighting back against rising prices in Nature, a high-profile scientific journal. What happened? Nothing. Eight years later, Nature continues to dominate the industry. For those who believe things will get better on their own: 1) I salute your optimism, and 2) The scientific publishing industry is worth an estimated $25 billion - they’re not going to leave the bar without throwing a few punches. <h2><b>Come Down The Rabbit Hole With Me</b></h2> <center>![](https://i.imgsafe.org/22/22a29627d3.jpeg)</center> As beautifully stated by Morpheus in the 1999 Hollywood hit, The Matrix: *“You take the <b>blue pill</b> — the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the <b>red pill</b> — you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember: all I’m offering is the truth.” —  Morpheus* What do you say? Are you ready to see what’s really happening in the scientific publishing industry? Or would you rather put on the blinders and pretend everything’s going to be okay? Am I being overdramatic? In my opinion, no. This is a very serious problem that affects all of us. It should be addressed before these monopolies accrue more power. Otherwise, the generations after us, and even our own, will suffer. <h2><b>The Era of Scientific Gatekeepers</b></h2> Peer review has only been around for a few hundred years, and within that timespan, has become a monopolized mess. I call it the “era of scientific gatekeepers” because A) It has nice ring to it, and B) It’s true. <center>![](https://i.imgsafe.org/22/22a2c52887.jpeg)</center> In Science, another high-profile journal, your chances of getting accepted are just 7%. Numbers like this are fairly consistent across the board. With such a high rejection rate, authors resort to publishing in low-profile journals that garner minimal traffic. You’re probably thinking, “*Okay, but they’re rejecting for a reason. The other 93% of papers must be low quality*”. Nope. Scientific journals are notorious for rejecting famous papers. George A. Akerlof, a Nobel Prize-winning economist, had his paper “The Market For Lemons” rejected several times before finally getting accepted. In 2015, it was shown that the top medical journals rejected 14 out of 14 of the top cited articles of all time within their respective fields. Enrico Fermi’s paper on weak interaction (a fundamental force of nature) was rejected by Nature for being “too remote from reality”. That same paper helped him win the Nobel Prize in physics in 1938. The list goes on an on. Which begs the question: why do scientific journals charge so much? Because scientists have to publish consistently to sustain their careers. Journals aren’t stupid. They know that researchers, especially young ones, must “publish or perish”. That’s why journals are able to charge $1,350 to $5,000 per paper and get away with it. <center>![](https://i.imgsafe.org/22/22b74032bb.jpeg)</center> To make matters worse, the entire process can take years. Researchers can’t afford to wait that long, otherwise, they risk getting surpassed in status by their peers. <h2><b>Scientific Journals Have Insanely High Profit Margins</b></h2> I don’t think people realize just how profitable the scientific journal industry is. In 2010, Elsevier, a major journal in the space, reported profits of £724 million with a revenue of £2 billion. That’s a 36% profit margin. That same year, Google, Apple, and Amazon all reported profit margins lower than 36%. In the publishing industry, that’s high. Take, for instance, magazine companies. Their profit margins are about 13.5%, nearly 3x lower than some journals. Despite a similar business model, the numbers are vastly different. The question is, why? The answer: free labor. Before a paper gets published, it must go through a process called peer review. The role of a peer reviewer is to judge a paper’s merit. It’s their job to let the journal know whether a paper is fit for publication. <center>![](https://i.imgsafe.org/22/22b6fe4462.jpeg)</center> It’s a time-consuming and mentally-taxing role- and that’s putting it mildly. Most scientists are very busy. They teach, mentor, and conduct their own research. One would assume that peer reviewers get paid for their efforts. Unfortunately, this isn’t the case. These roles are filled by working scientists on a volunteer basis. It’s estimated that unpaid peer review is worth £1.9 billion. How, then, do journals reward scientists? By charging them pricey subscription fees for content they created. It’s the epitome of the classic idiom “biting the hand that feeds you”. Remember, the journals pay nothing for peer reviewers or research papers. It’s no wonder why their profit margins are so high! <b>Update</b>: I just realized that Elsevier’s profits have increased from £724 million/year to over £900 million/year. For all you optimists out there, do you still believe things will get better on their own? <h2><b>Journals Only Care About New and Spectacular Results</b></h2> <center>![](https://i.imgsafe.org/22/22a2ca39cb.jpeg)</center> For journals, it’s all about publishing exciting discoveries. After all, they’re in the business of selling subscriptions. They can’t do this by publishing “boring” research. Papers must have a certain “wow factor”, otherwise, they get rejected. According to a 2013 study, 50% of all clinical trials in the U.S. never get published. This means that thousands of clinical trials go unreported. Why is this bad? Because it leads to redundant research. When clinical trials don’t get reported, scientists don’t know what’s been tried and what hasn’t. As a result, they waste time and money performing unnecessary experiments. You might think, “*Well, it’s the researchers’ fault for not reporting their findings*”. I disagree. While it’s easy to blame the researchers, we must remember: scientific journals favor papers that show positive results. It’s rare for them to publish negative findings. This leaves little incentive to report anything but positive findings. Compare the following approaches: <center>![](https://i.imgsafe.org/22/22a2924b4c.jpeg)</center> In Figure 1, which is the most common approach taken by journals, only experiments with positive results are published. In Figure 2, all results- negative and positive- are published. A common rebuttal against Figure 2 is, “Negative data can’t be trusted”. As pointed out in a 2013 article, negative data is statistically more trustworthy than positive data. “What gets us into trouble is not what we don’t know, it’s what we know for sure that just ain’t so.” — Mark Twain. <h2><b>The Current Peer Review Model is Biased</b></h2> Most scientific journals use single blind peer review. This means the author’s identity is revealed while the reviewer’s is hidden. Unfortunately, it can lead to favoritism- particularly towards senior scientists. In this report (http://publishingresearchconsortium.com/index.php/prc-documents/prc-research-projects/36-peer-review-full-prc-report-final/file), the acceptance rate of a prestigious researcher’s paper was 87% with their identity revealed, but only 68% with their identity hidden. In other words, the author’s prestige skewed the reviewer’s opinion of the paper. <h2><b>How Can Blockchain Fix This Mess?</b></h2> Scientists around the world deserve financial empowerment and better connectivity. However, they can’t acquire this while centralized scientific journals still exist. The middleman has to go, and blockchain is the perfect way to make that happen. <h2><b>Our Solution — Incentivized Post Publication Peer Review</b></h2> <center>![](https://i.imgsafe.org/22/22a2a84e95.jpeg)</center> The model we are proposing is <b>Incentivized Post Publication Peer Review</b>. It’s simply an incentivized version of the standard post publication peer review model. Remember, peer reviewers aren’t paid. They also don’t receive any notoriety. Without pay or prestige, there’s little incentive, aside from integrity and/or impact, to do a good job. Ask yourself: if you had to devote yourself to a project without pay or prestige, would you do it? For most people, the answer is “No”. Remember: peer reviewers, like all people, want recognition and/or monetary compensation for their work. Lab Ledger solves this problem by giving peer reviewers what they deserve: pay and notoriety. 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      "body": "<center>![](https://i.imgsafe.org/22/22b73e3ce4.jpeg)</center>\n\nThe scientific community has a serious problem on their hands. At present, they’re being extorted by a oligopoly of academic journals that are slow, expensive, biased and, as shown by the evidence, ineffective at what they do.\n\nIf it sounds that bad, it’s because it is that bad. Scientific journals charge hefty price tags for their services. Between 1986 and 2003, they raised their subscription prices by a whopping 215%. Why, you ask? The simple answer: because they can.\n\nWhen you have total control over a market, you can charge whatever you want. Scientists and universities know it’s happening, yet, they shrug it off because there’s nothing they can do about it. Scientists have tried boycotting certain journals without much success.\n\nIn 2010, the University of California tried fighting back against rising prices in Nature, a high-profile scientific journal. What happened? Nothing. Eight years later, Nature continues to dominate the industry.\n\nFor those who believe things will get better on their own: 1) I salute your optimism, and 2) The scientific publishing industry is worth an estimated $25 billion - they’re not going to leave the bar without throwing a few punches.\n\n<h2><b>Come Down The Rabbit Hole With Me</b></h2>\n<center>![](https://i.imgsafe.org/22/22a29627d3.jpeg)</center>\n\nAs beautifully stated by Morpheus in the 1999 Hollywood hit, The Matrix:\n\n*“You take the <b>blue pill</b> — the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the <b>red pill</b> — you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember: all I’m offering is the truth.” —  Morpheus*\n\nWhat do you say?\n\nAre you ready to see what’s really happening in the scientific publishing industry?\n\nOr would you rather put on the blinders and pretend everything’s going to be okay?\n\nAm I being overdramatic? In my opinion, no. This is a very serious problem that affects all of us. It should be addressed before these monopolies accrue more power. Otherwise, the generations after us, and even our own, will suffer.\n\n<h2><b>The Era of Scientific Gatekeepers</b></h2>\n\nPeer review has only been around for a few hundred years, and within that timespan, has become a monopolized mess. I call it the “era of scientific gatekeepers” because A) It has nice ring to it, and B) It’s true.\n\n<center>![](https://i.imgsafe.org/22/22a2c52887.jpeg)</center>\n\nIn Science, another high-profile journal, your chances of getting accepted are just 7%. Numbers like this are fairly consistent across the board. With such a high rejection rate, authors resort to publishing in low-profile journals that garner minimal traffic.\n\nYou’re probably thinking, “*Okay, but they’re rejecting for a reason. The other 93% of papers must be low quality*”.\n\nNope.\n\nScientific journals are notorious for rejecting famous papers. George A. Akerlof, a Nobel Prize-winning economist, had his paper “The Market For Lemons” rejected several times before finally getting accepted.\n\nIn 2015, it was shown that the top medical journals rejected 14 out of 14 of the top cited articles of all time within their respective fields.\n\nEnrico Fermi’s paper on weak interaction (a fundamental force of nature) was rejected by Nature for being “too remote from reality”. That same paper helped him win the Nobel Prize in physics in 1938.\n\nThe list goes on an on. Which begs the question: why do scientific journals charge so much? Because scientists have to publish consistently to sustain their careers.\n\nJournals aren’t stupid. They know that researchers, especially young ones, must “publish or perish”. That’s why journals are able to charge $1,350 to $5,000 per paper and get away with it.\n\n<center>![](https://i.imgsafe.org/22/22b74032bb.jpeg)</center>\n\nTo make matters worse, the entire process can take years. Researchers can’t afford to wait that long, otherwise, they risk getting surpassed in status by their peers.\n\n<h2><b>Scientific Journals Have Insanely High Profit Margins</b></h2>\n\nI don’t think people realize just how profitable the scientific journal industry is. In 2010, Elsevier, a major journal in the space, reported profits of £724 million with a revenue of £2 billion. That’s a 36% profit margin. That same year, Google, Apple, and Amazon all reported profit margins lower than 36%.\n\nIn the publishing industry, that’s high. Take, for instance, magazine companies. Their profit margins are about 13.5%, nearly 3x lower than some journals. Despite a similar business model, the numbers are vastly different. The question is, why?\n\nThe answer: free labor.\n\nBefore a paper gets published, it must go through a process called peer review. The role of a peer reviewer is to judge a paper’s merit. It’s their job to let the journal know whether a paper is fit for publication.\n\n<center>![](https://i.imgsafe.org/22/22b6fe4462.jpeg)</center>\n\nIt’s a time-consuming and mentally-taxing role- and that’s putting it mildly. Most scientists are very busy. They teach, mentor, and conduct their own research.\n\nOne would assume that peer reviewers get paid for their efforts. Unfortunately, this isn’t the case. These roles are filled by working scientists on a volunteer basis. It’s estimated that unpaid peer review is worth £1.9 billion.\n\nHow, then, do journals reward scientists? By charging them pricey subscription fees for content they created. It’s the epitome of the classic idiom “biting the hand that feeds you”. Remember, the journals pay nothing for peer reviewers or research papers. It’s no wonder why their profit margins are so high!\n\n<b>Update</b>: I just realized that Elsevier’s profits have increased from £724 million/year to over £900 million/year. For all you optimists out there, do you still believe things will get better on their own?\n\n<h2><b>Journals Only Care About New and Spectacular Results</b></h2>\n<center>![](https://i.imgsafe.org/22/22a2ca39cb.jpeg)</center>\n\nFor journals, it’s all about publishing exciting discoveries. After all, they’re in the business of selling subscriptions. They can’t do this by publishing “boring” research. Papers must have a certain “wow factor”, otherwise, they get rejected.\n\nAccording to a 2013 study, 50% of all clinical trials in the U.S. never get published. This means that thousands of clinical trials go unreported.\n\nWhy is this bad?\n\nBecause it leads to redundant research. When clinical trials don’t get reported, scientists don’t know what’s been tried and what hasn’t. 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As pointed out in a 2013 article, negative data is statistically more trustworthy than positive data.\n\n“What gets us into trouble is not what we don’t know, it’s what we know for sure that just ain’t so.” — Mark Twain.\n\n<h2><b>The Current Peer Review Model is Biased</b></h2>\n\nMost scientific journals use single blind peer review. This means the author’s identity is revealed while the reviewer’s is hidden. Unfortunately, it can lead to favoritism- particularly towards senior scientists.\n\nIn this report (http://publishingresearchconsortium.com/index.php/prc-documents/prc-research-projects/36-peer-review-full-prc-report-final/file), the acceptance rate of a prestigious researcher’s paper was 87% with their identity revealed, but only 68% with their identity hidden. In other words, the author’s prestige skewed the reviewer’s opinion of the paper.\n\n<h2><b>How Can Blockchain Fix This Mess?</b></h2>\n\nScientists around the world deserve financial empowerment and better connectivity. However, they can’t acquire this while centralized scientific journals still exist. The middleman has to go, and blockchain is the perfect way to make that happen.\n\n<h2><b>Our Solution — Incentivized Post Publication Peer Review</b></h2>\n<center>![](https://i.imgsafe.org/22/22a2a84e95.jpeg)</center>\n\nThe model we are proposing is <b>Incentivized Post Publication Peer Review</b>. It’s simply an incentivized version of the standard post publication peer review model.\n\nRemember, peer reviewers aren’t paid. They also don’t receive any notoriety. Without pay or prestige, there’s little incentive, aside from integrity and/or impact, to do a good job.\n\nAsk yourself: if you had to devote yourself to a project without pay or prestige, would you do it? 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