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To Date
2019/09/03 08:36:33
2019/09/03 08:36:33
| parent author | kak |
| parent permlink | i-pay-my-taxes-and-politicians-work-for-those-that-pay-their-wages-and-i-can-prove-it-dammit |
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2019/08/22 17:57:12
| from | dtube |
| to | kak |
| amount | 0.001 STEEM |
| memo | Time is running out, claim your DTube account now before anyone else can! Login at https://d.tube |
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}kakupvoted (100.00%) @roatanbill / ptxshx2019/07/01 10:28:42
kakupvoted (100.00%) @roatanbill / ptxshx
2019/07/01 10:28:42
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kakupvoted (100.00%) @corbettreport / crime-pays-if-you-re-in-government
2018/10/15 09:46:03
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2018/05/23 00:55:09
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2018/03/31 18:16:36
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2018/03/23 18:55:33
| voter | thijsvanderlinde |
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}kakupvoted (100.00%) @corbettreport / z2frncqw2018/03/13 22:59:12
kakupvoted (100.00%) @corbettreport / z2frncqw
2018/03/13 22:59:12
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2018/03/13 22:52:39
| voter | kak |
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kakfollowed @sgtreport
2018/02/28 12:13:15
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2018/02/28 12:00:09
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2018/02/28 11:18:54
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kakfollowed @highimpactflix
2018/02/28 11:17:45
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kakfollowed @corbettreport
2018/02/28 09:44:18
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2018/02/28 09:39:48
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2018/02/28 09:39:27
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| body | Likewise, my friend. After invading other countries based on lies people are supposed to be shocked that there might be ONE out there. The first rule of preventing 'terrorism' is not to blindly swallow lies. We're living with the aftermath. No doubt many are following Larken's Mirror project closely. Looking forward to seeing how it functions in practice. Understanding the psychology and how to deal with it is key (I'm still learning). I do recommend watching the film. If it's genuine it's the security types themselves telling us that it's a pantomime and that everything possible is being done to allow an 'event' (false flag or otherwise) to occur. For anyone who might be reading this the 'chance' comes from re-organizing your life so that you have the time/energy to research and think for yourself. This can take years, but it is worth it. |
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| body | Hi - So for capital gains tax etc. "..It's voluntary" - you're saying that people volunteer to give politicians some of the money they've earned in order to avoid a "loss." You said they are motivated by fear. Yes, they are motivated in exactly the same way that a small businessman is motivated to "pay" a mafia not to wreck his business, with the result that he "volunteers" to "pay" them protection money. Lobbyists and politicians - accepting gifts/cash - breaking the law. Not really relevant to what I was saying. The fact is that it happens and it is voluntary. That's all I was saying. Government employees work for citizens. - "...Regardless of whether the citizens "voluntarily" give up their taxes or not.." But that's the whole point, if their money is taken from them, and it doesn't matter if they agree to it or not, how can it be said that the people taking the money are working for the people losing the money? "....Whether they are accountable to those citizens, do a good/bad job, become corrupt or despots isn't at issue..." Of course it is at issue. If you have someone working for you, by definition, they are accountable to you. You must understand that if you employ a guy to renovate your garden and he ends up stealing your lawnmower and garden tools, he is no longer working for you. He stopped working for you when he started stealing from you. "...bureaucrats don't screw up as many lives as is claimed, ..." Obviously that's incalculable, but at least you do agree that they screw up some lives. "...Government employees (including politicians) do work for citizens...." Actually, that's impossible, (if I can assume that you mean that they work for all citizens). Even if all politicians and bureaucrats were honest and tried to do good things, they still couldn't work for citizens. Gov doesn't produce anything. All gov does is take money from one group of people and give some of it to other people, after taking their cut of course. So, if giving money to one group of people is the result of "work" done on behalf of those people, then how do you describe what has happened to the people whose money was taken? Seems like they were robbed. I understand that I failed to explain the point I was trying to make. Thanks for taking the time to comment - appreciated. |
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"body": "Hi - So for capital gains tax etc. \"..It's voluntary\" - you're saying that people volunteer to give politicians some of the money they've earned in order to avoid a \"loss.\" You said they are motivated by fear.\nYes, they are motivated in exactly the same way that a small businessman is motivated to \"pay\" a mafia not to wreck his business, with the result that he \"volunteers\" to \"pay\" them protection money.\n\nLobbyists and politicians - accepting gifts/cash - breaking the law. Not really relevant to what I was saying. The fact is that it happens and it is voluntary. That's all I was saying.\n\nGovernment employees work for citizens. - \"...Regardless of whether the citizens \"voluntarily\" give up their taxes or not..\" But that's the whole point, if their money is taken from them, and it doesn't matter if they agree to it or not, how can it be said that the people taking the money are working for the people losing the money?\n\n\"....Whether they are accountable to those citizens, do a good/bad job, become corrupt or despots isn't at issue...\" Of course it is at issue. If you have someone working for you, by definition, they are accountable to you. You must understand that if you employ a guy to renovate your garden and he ends up stealing your lawnmower and garden tools, he is no longer working for you. He stopped working for you when he started stealing from you.\n\n\"...bureaucrats don't screw up as many lives as is claimed, ...\" Obviously that's incalculable, but at least you do agree that they screw up some lives.\n\n\n\"...Government employees (including politicians) do work for citizens....\" Actually, that's impossible, (if I can assume that you mean that they work for all citizens).\n\nEven if all politicians and bureaucrats were honest and tried to do good things, they still couldn't work for citizens.\nGov doesn't produce anything. All gov does is take money from one group of people and give some of it to other people, after taking their cut of course. So, if giving money to one group of people is the result of \"work\" done on behalf of those people, then how do you describe what has happened to the people whose money was taken? Seems like they were robbed.\n\nI understand that I failed to explain the point I was trying to make.\nThanks for taking the time to comment - appreciated.",
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2018/01/14 09:51:03
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| body | Hello. Interesting read. Here are a couple suggestions when approaching the concept of taxes. Income taxes are very specific and not related to many of the other taxes that are paid individually such as Capital Gains, property, etc. In this case, there is a "voluntary" agreement between an individual and the State or at least a "fear of loss" motivator if one doesn't pay their taxes. Additionally, lobbyists who make cash payments or gifts to politicians are breaking the law as are the politicians who accept these payments. I'm not suggesting that this doesn't happen, but it isn't "supposed" to happen. Government employees (including politicians) do work for citizens. Regardless of whether the citizens "voluntarily" give up their taxes or not. Whether they are accountable to those citizens, do a good/bad job, become corrupt or despots isn't at issue. Lastly, I would suggest that bureaucrats don't screw up as many lives as is claimed, but are rather scapegoated by people who fail to hold themselves accountable to bad decisions. Just my thoughts. Thanks for the post. It gives us quite a bit to think about. |
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| title | I pay my taxes! and Politicians work for those that pay their wages... And I can prove it - Dammit! |
| body | ### People do work for those who pay them. If you work for a company, you produce whatever the boss tells you to produce or you are free to leave, and he is free to stop paying you when you stop producing for him. Or If you own a company and supply services or goods. The goods you make will go to the people who pay you for them. This is true everywhere....... In other words... To the extent that this is a voluntary arrangement is the extent to which this is an economic law. (i.e. It’s pretty much universal) This law is applicable to a free market and it also works in politics. I.e. It’s the same with politicians. They supply their services to those who pay them. “...But...but.... I vote for politicians and I pay my taxes and the politicians never do what they said they would do when they were running for office....blah.... blah.... Blah..... I pay their wages and I pay the wages of the bureaucrats and the cops and all of the alphabet agencies........ They work for me!....” Here’s some news for ya!....... **No, you don’t** and **No, they don’t** One reason people get frustrated and angry at bureaucrats is because they do not understand some basic meanings of everyday language. Now, you’re going to argue and tell me that **you do** understand basic English language, and that’s not why you get annoyed at politicians and bureaucrats..... It’s because the politicians are corrupt...... Especially those republirats or those democrats or lefties or righties or libtards or water melons or whomever... And who the hell am I to be telling you what you understand and don’t understand?... Well, ok. You could choose to attack the messenger, or you could consider this... Here is the first error made by most people. **“...I pay my taxes”** No you don’t. Some of your wealth that you earned in your day job ends up in the hands of politicians, but you never **paid** it to the politician. You were obliged to hand it over or there would be bad consequences for you. (And you know it). A **pay**ment is some kind of mutually agreed amount of value that is exchanged between 2 or more parties when terms of a contract have been satisfied. (Verbal or written agreement - it doesn’t matter). The point is that it must be voluntary. (By definition, if it’s not voluntary, then it cannot be a contract or an agreement, therefore it’s not a **pay**ment). Ok, now you say “...but **I pay my taxes** voluntarily because I think I receive good value from the government” Fine. That may be true today. But you still don’t “pay” it. Here’s why.... The tax rate is just a figure decided by politicians, that they believe will maximise the receipts (money) from the people that produce wealth in a country. Note. - At different periods in history, the tax rates have fluctuated in a range between 1% and 98%. (Different rates have applied to different groups of earners in a population, just like today. But the fact remains that the rates have been applied to people). The fact is that the rate of tax on your earnings is decided purely by how much the politicians think they can get away with without annoying the cattle too much, and risking a mutiny. Right now, in most Western countries the tax rate on earnings is somewhere around 35% - 55%. But all of these western governments have huge debts. ###### (For simplicity, we will accept the premise that taxes are supposed to pay for the running of government agencies and wages for politicians etc etc). Why is the tax rate lower than it has been historically and governments have huge debts? Surely it would be more sensible just to raise tax rates and pay off the debts. Wouldn’t it be cheaper than paying interest on all that debt? One reason they don’t raise the tax rate is given above. “...but I pay my taxes *voluntarily* because I think I receive good value from the government” Let’s assume that statement is true. (I suppose there may be someone out there who may actually believe that). You believe it’s good value right now when you hand over say, 50% of your earnings each week. Would you still believe it to be good value if that rate went up to 98%? The point is, that if there was some tax rate percentage at which you didn’t believe you were getting good value, you are not “allowed” to refuse to hand over your money. You are forced to hand over whatever amount the bureaucrat tells you to hand over. For “paying taxes” to be voluntary, you must have the right to agree to the “payment” and also have the right to disagree with the “payment.” (So, a “tax payment” is really an oxymoron. A “payment” is voluntarily and a “tax” isn’t). ###### For convenience, let’s accept the wikipedia definition: - ........mandatory financial charge or some other type of levy imposed upon a taxpayer (an individual or other legal entity) by a governmental organization in order to fund various public expenditures.[1] A failure to pay, or evasion of or resistance to taxation, is punishable by law....... ##### ....So, when you see politicians running for office during elections, they receive money from the general public in donations as well as from corporations to finance the election campaigns. This is normally referred to as “donations.” As you no doubt realise, these corporations aren’t giving politicians $1 million donations just to “help them out a bit.” (Actually, it would likely be illegal for a CEO of a corporation to do just that, because a CEO has a legal obligation to shareholders to only take action that is likely to increase the profits to the company and hence to the shareholders. I.e. - He’s not allowed to give away the shareholders’ money willy-nilly with no expectation of a return). The politician also receives money from lobbyists once they have been elected. And that, dear reader, is who **pays** the politician. *(The political lobbying racket etc comes under the subject of Public Choice Theory, if you’re interested).* For now, the point here is that Joe Public does not **“pay”** the politician. He is **forced** to hand over his money. And so, the politician has no obligation or incentive to **work** for Joe Public The lobbyist **does pay** the politician. We know it is a **pay**ment because it is **voluntary.** He is not obliged to hand over money to the politician. (See note (1) below) The money received via tax, is money that is guaranteed, no matter what a politician does. The government will receive that money whether they did a good job or a bad job, or no job, so why would any politician do any work to supposedly justify it? It’d just be a waste of his time. So, the politician generally does not produce or provide anything useful for anyone who does not pay him. He does however, provide his services to those who do pay him. And that is in line with the economic law stated earlier. *(The intention is to help people reduce the frustration they seem to feel, when they see bureaucrats screw their lives up. It may help to understand that these bureaucrats are not **their** public servants, because **they** do not pay their wages).* *(Note (1)) - It’s not uncommon for businesses to be extorted by politicians of course. It’s just a protection racket and is pretty well documented.* |
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"body": "### People do work for those who pay them.\nIf you work for a company, you produce whatever the boss tells you to produce or you are free to leave, and he is free to stop paying you when you stop producing for him.\n\nOr If you own a company and supply services or goods.\nThe goods you make will go to the people who pay you for them.\n\nThis is true everywhere....... In other words...\nTo the extent that this is a voluntary arrangement is the extent to which this is an economic law. (i.e. It’s pretty much universal)\nThis law is applicable to a free market and it also works in politics.\n\nI.e. It’s the same with politicians. They supply their services to those who pay them.\n\n“...But...but.... I vote for politicians and I pay my taxes and the politicians never do what they said they would do when they were running for office....blah.... blah.... Blah..... I pay their wages and I pay the wages of the bureaucrats and the cops and all of the alphabet agencies........ They work for me!....”\n\nHere’s some news for ya!....... **No, you don’t** and **No, they don’t**\n\nOne reason people get frustrated and angry at bureaucrats is because they do not understand some basic meanings of everyday language.\n\nNow, you’re going to argue and tell me that **you do** understand basic English language, and that’s not why you get annoyed at politicians and bureaucrats..... It’s because the politicians are corrupt...... Especially those republirats or those democrats or lefties or righties or libtards or water melons or whomever... And who the hell am I to be telling you what you understand and don’t understand?...\n\nWell, ok. You could choose to attack the messenger, or you could consider this...\n\nHere is the first error made by most people. **“...I pay my taxes”**\nNo you don’t.\nSome of your wealth that you earned in your day job ends up in the hands of politicians, but you never **paid** it to the politician. You were obliged to hand it over or there would be bad consequences for you. (And you know it).\n\nA **pay**ment is some kind of mutually agreed amount of value that is exchanged between 2 or more parties when terms of a contract have been satisfied. (Verbal or written agreement - it doesn’t matter). The point is that it must be voluntary. (By definition, if it’s not voluntary, then it cannot be a contract or an agreement, therefore it’s not a **pay**ment).\n\nOk, now you say “...but **I pay my taxes** voluntarily because I think I receive good value from the government”\nFine. That may be true today. But you still don’t “pay” it. Here’s why....\n\nThe tax rate is just a figure decided by politicians, that they believe will maximise the receipts (money) from the people that produce wealth in a country.\n\nNote. - At different periods in history, the tax rates have fluctuated in a range between 1% and 98%. (Different rates have applied to different groups of earners in a population, just like today. But the fact remains that the rates have been applied to people).\n\nThe fact is that the rate of tax on your earnings is decided purely by how much the politicians think they can get away with without annoying the cattle too much, and risking a mutiny.\nRight now, in most Western countries the tax rate on earnings is somewhere around 35% - 55%. But all of these western governments have huge debts.\n###### (For simplicity, we will accept the premise that taxes are supposed to pay for the running of government agencies and wages for politicians etc etc).\n\n\nWhy is the tax rate lower than it has been historically and governments have huge debts? Surely it would be more sensible just to raise tax rates and pay off the debts. Wouldn’t it be cheaper than paying interest on all that debt?\nOne reason they don’t raise the tax rate is given above.\n\n“...but I pay my taxes *voluntarily* because I think I receive good value from the government”\nLet’s assume that statement is true. (I suppose there may be someone out there who may actually believe that).\nYou believe it’s good value right now when you hand over say, 50% of your earnings each week. Would you still believe it to be good value if that rate went up to 98%?\nThe point is, that if there was some tax rate percentage at which you didn’t believe you were getting good value, you are not “allowed” to refuse to hand over your money. You are forced to hand over whatever amount the bureaucrat tells you to hand over.\n\nFor “paying taxes” to be voluntary, you must have the right to agree to the “payment” and also have the right to disagree with the “payment.”\n(So, a “tax payment” is really an oxymoron. A “payment” is voluntarily and a “tax” isn’t).\n\n###### For convenience, let’s accept the wikipedia definition: - ........mandatory financial charge or some other type of levy imposed upon a taxpayer (an individual or other legal entity) by a governmental organization in order to fund various public expenditures.[1] A failure to pay, or evasion of or resistance to taxation, is punishable by law.......\n\n##### ....So, when you see politicians running for office during elections, they receive money from the general public in donations as well as from corporations to finance the election campaigns.\n\nThis is normally referred to as “donations.”\nAs you no doubt realise, these corporations aren’t giving politicians $1 million donations just to “help them out a bit.”\n\n(Actually, it would likely be illegal for a CEO of a corporation to do just that, because a CEO has a legal obligation to shareholders to only take action that is likely to increase the profits to the company and hence to the shareholders. I.e. - He’s not allowed to give away the shareholders’ money willy-nilly with no expectation of a return).\n\nThe politician also receives money from lobbyists once they have been elected. And that, dear reader, is who **pays** the politician.\n\n*(The political lobbying racket etc comes under the subject of Public Choice Theory, if you’re interested).*\n\nFor now, the point here is that Joe Public does not **“pay”** the politician. He is **forced** to hand over his money. And so, the politician has no obligation or incentive to **work** for Joe Public\nThe lobbyist **does pay** the politician. We know it is a **pay**ment because it is **voluntary.** He is not obliged to hand over money to the politician. (See note (1) below)\n\nThe money received via tax, is money that is guaranteed, no matter what a politician does. The government will receive that money whether they did a good job or a bad job, or no job, so why would any politician do any work to supposedly justify it? It’d just be a waste of his time.\n\nSo, the politician generally does not produce or provide anything useful for anyone who does not pay him. He does however, provide his services to those who do pay him. And that is in line with the economic law stated earlier.\n\n*(The intention is to help people reduce the frustration they seem to feel, when they see bureaucrats screw their lives up. It may help to understand that these bureaucrats are not **their** public servants, because **they** do not pay their wages).*\n\n*(Note (1)) - It’s not uncommon for businesses to be extorted by politicians of course. It’s just a protection racket and is pretty well documented.*",
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| body | I haven't seen the film. (I can probably imagine what it's about). "...How much harder it will be to get through to people..." Yes, you're probably right. In order to "...let ONE slip through the net..." there has to be ONE to begin with. Since for example when the TSA at airports in usa were "tested" by FBI, they managed to let 95%+ "slip through the net" it's a fairly safe bet that any that do "slip through the net" would likely be false flag type operations. This "searching people" stuff is pure theatre and propaganda. (It seems to be effective on a high %age of people) Now, like I said, education can be important if you can persuade people to look at evidence etc etc. but it's not just an information or problem. It's mostly a psychological problem. As you are no doubt aware, it doesn't make much difference to lots of people how much evidence you show them, if that evidence challenges their world view etc. This is why Larken's "Mirror" project looks pretty interesting. Remember we don't have to persuade everyone that being free is a good idea. 10% or less is probably a good enough start. A few yrs ago, you didn't have the knowledge you now have (I'm guessing). With some research, you began to realise what's going on. There are many more people out there, willing to do the same, given the chance. Anyway, I think it's pretty cool that you seem concerned about it. Keep on Rockin' |
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"body": "I haven't seen the film. (I can probably imagine what it's about).\n\"...How much harder it will be to get through to people...\" Yes, you're probably right.\nIn order to \"...let ONE slip through the net...\" there has to be ONE to begin with. \nSince for example when the TSA at airports in usa were \"tested\" by FBI, they managed to let 95%+ \"slip through the net\" it's a fairly safe bet that any that do \"slip through the net\" would likely be false flag type operations.\nThis \"searching people\" stuff is pure theatre and propaganda. (It seems to be effective on a high %age of people)\nNow, like I said, education can be important if you can persuade people to look at evidence etc etc. but it's not just an information or problem. It's mostly a psychological problem.\nAs you are no doubt aware, it doesn't make much difference to lots of people how much evidence you show them, if that evidence challenges their world view etc. \n\nThis is why Larken's \"Mirror\" project looks pretty interesting.\nRemember we don't have to persuade everyone that being free is a good idea. 10% or less is probably a good enough start.\nA few yrs ago, you didn't have the knowledge you now have (I'm guessing). With some research, you began to realise what's going on. There are many more people out there, willing to do the same, given the chance.\nAnyway, I think it's pretty cool that you seem concerned about it. Keep on Rockin'",
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| body | Leslie - You're very close to "hitting the nail on the head" when you say... "...that can be stretched to cover almost any "need"...." "...who decides who needs what and how people's needs rank in relation to each other?..." This is mistaken (IMO) - see below.. This conflict of ideas in Larken's essay has a few roots, but one of the main ones may not be obvious... It is the misuse of the word ...NEED.. This can be a very dangerous word - It makes an objective claim, while offering very little information. The word "Need" is a word that requires a "qualifier" i.e. a supporting or explaining word to go along with it in order to justify the use of the word "need." It cannot be allowed to stand on its own. Doing so invites danger. As you likely know, in most day to day language, the word "need" may be replaced with the word "want." Can you see the difference between.... On a hot day you say "I want an ice cream" or "I need an ice cream" A few decades ago, most people would use the word "want." When you "want" an ice cream, you are expressing a desire and people will know that you have a preference for an ice cream. When you "need" an ice cream, you have said that it is imperative that you get an ice cream. No-one knows if you are expressing a preference, but it seems that there is an urgency that you receive an ice cream, and it takes priority. When "need" is used like this, without a qualifier, there is no scale of needs. Sure, you can have a scale of WANTS, but NEEDS all have equal urgency. I said it can be dangerous - Here's why.... People will use the word "need" when they really are just expressing a want, in order to make you prioritise their desire. Because of what the word means. It expresses necessity, a requirement, an imperative. In this context It's obviously aimed at people's natural tendency to be empathetic etc. Authoritarians use this to great effect. e.g Nowadays it's unlikely that you'll hear a cop say that he wants you to do X or Y. He'll say that he "NEEDS" you to do X or Y I can guarantee you that more people would obey, or go along with the 2nd statement. (Psychological conditioning and all that kind of stuff). Here's how it should be used. Whenever the word "need" is used, it should have a qualifier word along with it. e.g. 1 - I need a coat to stay warm today. 2 - I need a coat. 1 - I need an ice cream to help me cool down. 2 - I need an ice cream. 1 - I need you to get back from me so I can control you more easily. 2 - I need you to get back. If we accept an unqualified claim just because the word "need" is used, then your question becomes "...who gets to decide what is needed... etc.." (Obviously in day to day conversation between friends etc people will use this word in contexts where the subject matter is familiar to each person etc. but in debate or more serious type of discussions, it's worth being aware of these meanings above). I don't know if I've explained this very well, but if you consider it for long enough you may find that it goes a bit deeper than what i said. |
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"body": "Leslie - You're very close to \"hitting the nail on the head\" when you say...\n\"...that can be stretched to cover almost any \"need\"....\"\n\"...who decides who needs what and how people's needs rank in relation to each other?...\" This is mistaken (IMO) - see below..\n\nThis conflict of ideas in Larken's essay has a few roots, but one of the main ones may not be obvious...\nIt is the misuse of the word ...NEED..\nThis can be a very dangerous word - It makes an objective claim, while offering very little information.\nThe word \"Need\" is a word that requires a \"qualifier\" i.e. a supporting or explaining word to go along with it in order to justify the use of the word \"need.\" It cannot be allowed to stand on its own. Doing so invites danger. \nAs you likely know, in most day to day language, the word \"need\" may be replaced with the word \"want.\"\nCan you see the difference between.... On a hot day you say \"I want an ice cream\" or \"I need an ice cream\"\nA few decades ago, most people would use the word \"want.\"\nWhen you \"want\" an ice cream, you are expressing a desire and people will know that you have a preference for an ice cream.\nWhen you \"need\" an ice cream, you have said that it is imperative that you get an ice cream. No-one knows if you are expressing a preference, but it seems that there is an urgency that you receive an ice cream, and it takes priority.\nWhen \"need\" is used like this, without a qualifier, there is no scale of needs.\nSure, you can have a scale of WANTS, but NEEDS all have equal urgency.\n\nI said it can be dangerous - Here's why....\nPeople will use the word \"need\" when they really are just expressing a want, in order to make you prioritise their desire.\nBecause of what the word means. It expresses necessity, a requirement, an imperative.\nIn this context It's obviously aimed at people's natural tendency to be empathetic etc.\n\nAuthoritarians use this to great effect.\ne.g Nowadays it's unlikely that you'll hear a cop say that he wants you to do X or Y.\nHe'll say that he \"NEEDS\" you to do X or Y\nI can guarantee you that more people would obey, or go along with the 2nd statement. (Psychological conditioning and all that kind of stuff).\n\nHere's how it should be used. Whenever the word \"need\" is used, it should have a qualifier word along with it. e.g.\n1 - I need a coat to stay warm today.\n2 - I need a coat.\n1 - I need an ice cream to help me cool down.\n2 - I need an ice cream.\n1 - I need you to get back from me so I can control you more easily.\n2 - I need you to get back.\n\nIf we accept an unqualified claim just because the word \"need\" is used, then your question becomes \"...who gets to decide what is needed... etc..\"\n\n(Obviously in day to day conversation between friends etc people will use this word in contexts where the subject matter is familiar to each person etc. but in debate or more serious type of discussions, it's worth being aware of these meanings above).\nI don't know if I've explained this very well, but if you consider it for long enough you may find that it goes a bit deeper than what i said.",
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| body | When I see a film like ["Please remove your shoes"](http://putlockers.fm/watch/kxznrrxY-please-remove-your-shoes.html) I realize that we are running out of time before they let one 'slip through the net'. How much harder it will be to get through to people when there has actually been a 'terrorist attack'. People have been trying to spread the idea of "freedom is a good idea" far and wide since before Spartacus. It's often hijacked by politicians to pursue their agendas. That's why I wanted to get a bit more specific and provide and example that we can [all see happening around us on a daily basis](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/sadiq-khan-stop-search-london-crime-plan-violence-police-metropolitan-stabbings-acid-murder-moped-a8152371.html). |
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| body | Are you saying that a guy, held at gunpoint in an alleyway, hands over his wallet is acting cowardly? (Even if the victim knows that some of his stolen money will likely be used to finance future violent behaviour). Surely, most people have dependants. To refuse to hand over the wallet carries a high risk of death. To resist is likely to cause his dependants great future financial hardship. To insist that this man is a coward seems to be quite a leap. To make a judgement like that requires knowledge of the victim and his circumstances. I'm just curious to learn on what is this judgement based. (I may not be following the logic here) |
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| body | Anybody know the "treatment" for stockholm syndrome?...... Sometimes if you can correctly diagnose the illness, you can make progress towards curing the patient. There was a guy that said, ideally he'd like to shrink the size of government to a size where he could drag it into the toilet and drown it in the bath...... |
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| body | "...That's a massive loss of freedom simply for standing ground on a fundamental right..." Yes. You are correct. And perhaps the most important thing that could provide you a "solution" is that you/we try to spread the idea of "freedom is a good idea" far and wide. You see, this is how it could work..... If everyone went to the train station and refused to have their bag checked for example, the control system could not cope with the volume of people defying their orders. (The court system and prison system would very quickly become clogged up). What would likely happen is this... The severity of the punishment for disobedience would become less severe, until they would only try to extort you $10 for refusing to have your bag searched. No longer would you be threatened with 6 months in prison. If enough people refused to pay the $10 then they would have to go to court or prison etc. but the court could not deal with so many people so they would reduce the $10 to $5 until most people would pay it. Eventually, if enough people began to realise that they outnumber the psychopaths and the psychopaths are actually very weak, then people would begin to ignore them. I think perhaps, that is why it is in your interest to try to persuade as many people as possible to refuse to enable these violent people.................. (I didn't say it would be easy). |
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| body | "...They are allowing for murder and destruction on a global level..." While this is true, I'd say that it is not sufficiently precise. People who "pay" taxes are not "allowing" this destruction. "Allowing" implies that they have some kind of control over the money that is taken from them., and you know that is not the case. The people who have money taken from them have a poor choice. They can cough up the money demanded from them by the psychos, or they can refuse, and face the consequences. Either way, if they earn money in the market place, violence will ensue. The only thing that they can influence is whether the guns of the politicians will be pointed at them or some other poor bastard. Call it what it is "..their taxes..." is just protection money paid to racketeers. It's quite rational for people to hand over the money in order to pay off those that would otherwise attack them. It's difficult to condemn a man who can only see these as his only options. Most people are not familiar with game theory...... and how the state plays the "prisoner dilema" with them every day. (I do not intend to seem like a pedant, but using phrases like "their taxes" and "their governments" has a kinda ring of inevitability about it. Y'know, as if people have taken ownership of or at least are willing to accept these things as their own. Yugh - creepy)! |
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"body": "\"...They are allowing for murder and destruction on a global level...\" While this is true, I'd say that it is not sufficiently precise. People who \"pay\" taxes are not \"allowing\" this destruction. \"Allowing\" implies that they have some kind of control over the money that is taken from them., and you know that is not the case.\n\nThe people who have money taken from them have a poor choice. They can cough up the money demanded from them by the psychos, or they can refuse, and face the consequences.\nEither way, if they earn money in the market place, violence will ensue. The only thing that they can influence is whether the guns of the politicians will be pointed at them or some other poor bastard.\n\nCall it what it is \"..their taxes...\" is just protection money paid to racketeers.\nIt's quite rational for people to hand over the money in order to pay off those that would otherwise attack them.\nIt's difficult to condemn a man who can only see these as his only options.\nMost people are not familiar with game theory...... and how the state plays the \"prisoner dilema\" with them every day.\n\n(I do not intend to seem like a pedant, but using phrases like \"their taxes\" and \"their governments\" has a kinda ring of inevitability about it. Y'know, as if people have taken ownership of or at least are willing to accept these things as their own. Yugh - creepy)!",
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| body | "....defending their own subjugation..." is not the problem. "...calling for mine..." is the unfortunate part, I'd say. Thomas Sowell sad something similar to what you said......“I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money.” |
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| body | "...Smack in the head once a while ain't gonna hurt no one...." So what is the purpose of the "smack in the head?"..................... Why do it? |
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| title | I need you to need my neediness............... Just …. because.....you neeeeeeed to... |
| body | **I need you to need my neediness............... Just …. because.....you neeeeeeed to...** >George Orwell described how and why the control, manipulation and restriction of language in a population affects the ability of individuals to not only communicate their desires and feelings, but to restrict the initiation and formulation of ideas and the communication thereof. **i.e. Limiting the diversity and subtlety of meanings of words and their combinations makes it harder to think!!** <center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pVPs)</center> Of course people are always trying to affect the ideas of everyone they communicate with. The method used by _peaceful_ people is usually persuasion. However, even here, it is common to find language being stretched and squeezed somewhat, in ways that will hopefully be found persuasive enough to the listener, that it results in some idea being mutually agreed upon. It could be the sales pitch from the used car salesman <center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1rEus)</center> or it may be some girlfriends trying to agree on which dance club to attend on a Friday night. <center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1puB6)</center> “Normal” people usually attempt persuasion by presenting arguments, constructed and supported by using **logic, reason and evidence.** [](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pTm0) So-called **thought controllers** appeal to other facets of human character, usually the emotional side of our character. >Fear... envy... hate... anger... are emotional states that can be useful to them if certain concepts and ideas can be anchored to those emotional states. _(They rarely adopt logical arguments. That's too risky, since their ideas could never stand up to the rigours of logical argumentation)_ <center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1rZae)</center> **Propaganda** seems to be the general method used to carry out this **emotional anchoring.** Propaganda is a general term used to include a range of techniques that may be employed in order to achieve the desired effect in the target audience. <center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pLmi)</center> **Some examples of propaganda techniques............** **Exaggeration** - "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." - _Adolf Hitler_ [](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pHMa) 1: **Bandwagon** - This technique tries to persuade everyone to join in and do the same thing. <center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1p2k3)</center> 2: **Testimonial** - An important person or famous figure endorses a product or idea. [](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1rAEl) 3: **Transfer** - Good feelings, looks, or ideas transferred to the person for whom the product or idea is intended. <center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1rli8)</center> 4: **Repetition** - The product name or keyword or phrase is repeated several times. [](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1p6s6) 5: **Emotional Words** - Words such as luxury, beautiful, paradise, and economical are used to evoke positive feelings in the viewer. <center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pDIe)</center> 6: **Name-calling** - Negative words are used to create an unfavourable opinion of the competition or dissenters, in the minds of the audience. [](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pOsD) 7: **Faulty Cause and Effect** - Use of a product or political idea is credited for creating a positive result. <center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pQIu)</center> 8: **Compare and Contrast** - The audience is led to believe one political ideal is better than another, although no real proof is offered [](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pMbS) _(List of techniques from aacps.org)_ >The **mass media's spewing of political propaganda** in all its forms, can be a powerful tool, to those that control it, and is used to restrict and manipulate ideas. It has undeniably achieved great progress towards the goal of **mass thought control over large sections of the population.** <center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pNmW)</center> When speaking with friends about some particular subject, our choice of language is determined to some extent, where, and by whom we were introduced to that subject. i.e. When discussing a subject we are learning about in school, it's likely that we'll use the same terms and phrases that the lecturer used when teaching the subject. Likewise if are introduced to some news via mainstream media, we'll adopt the same terms they reporter used in his reporting. Unless we decide to research the subject in greater depth, we'll likely just continue to use the same terminology when referring to the subject. One result of this use of _selected language_, is that, we all use words and phrases at least from time to time without really thinking too deeply about what the words have come to actually mean, or why we use those words and phrases, repeatedly in certain contexts...... An example of which might be – at least familiar to readers of this essay - the term **“conspiracy theory.”** Around the time of the killing of JFK in Dallas Texas in Nov 1963, the term “conspiracy theory” seems to have been introduced by the media -possibly via CIA or some other alphabet coven - _(supposedly as a kind of shorthand, to describe those who expressed some doubt about the official story of the JFK assassination)._ It was taken by the CIA, and its meaning deliberately manipulated, so that it, (along with the phrase **“conspiracy theorist”**) eventually became a pejorative term. The moulding of this term, and anchoring, with the now familiar negative connotations was achieved over a period of time, via the CIA-controlled mass media organisations. **The propaganda techniques of “repetition” and “ridicule”** were employed when describing people (conspiracy theorists), who expressed **scepticism, doubts, suspicion** or made claims of the distortion of “facts” of the JFK case in Dallas. Readers may wish to do some research on CIA [“operation mocking bird”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird) for more information on how the control of mass media was and is carried out up to the present day. The term **“conspiracy theory” has now become a propaganda tool,** with which, political dissenters and sceptics can be “clubbed over the head” and verbally subdued, or at least the form or flow of their argument can be disrupted during conversation. It is a term employed by government apologists and statists, to compose [ad-hominem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) attacks on opponents during debate, who would otherwise threaten the efficacy of the mass delusion of the benevolent character of government in general. e.g. The idea is that, while the word **“conspiracy”** merely means the planning of some activity, made by two or more people to be carried out sometime in the future. It may be made in secret...... or not. It's basically just **a plan to cooperate to achieve some goal.** While everyone very often – in their daily lives - **conspires** with another party to combine their complimentary resources in order to achieve some end, the word was taken and consistently, and ridiculously associated with so-called (vaguely defined) **“dark forces”** or **“secret societies”** in the state-controlled mass media. _Conspriracy_ When used in association with the word “theory or theorist” the result is, an attack on the credibility, of the person or group being labelled conspiracy theorist(s). The perceived plausibility, of any future argument put forward by that opponent on any matter is therefore damaged. Basically a foundation for a character assassination has been created. <center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1phlJ)</center> Since many of us probably think that the word “guess” would adequately serve as a suitable synonym for “theory”, we effectively internally translate **“conspiracy theorist”** as someone who imagines or guesses that **secret societies, aliens, or people from dark government agencies are in the business of “coming to get them.**” Once that image of the half-crazed, slightly deranged loon, has been planted, we can safely, without further regard to any threat to the plenitude of our intellectual integrity or sense of fair play, dismiss out-of-hand or ignore any further ramblings from him. >**End Result** – One fewer source of ideas with which we choose to interact. (Worse. We are convinced that it was our free choice - arrived at via our rational thought process, that led us to the decision to sever communications between us and this other person). For the thought controllers? - **Mission Accomplished!!** ### Needs and Neediness As mentioned above, this particular example of the distorting and manipulation of language is fairly well known and understood by those somewhat familiar with the idea of “Orwellian Newspeak.” However, there is another example, much more pervasive and in some respects **much more dangerous to individual freedom of thought (and deed).** >The (mis)use of the word **"need"**...... especially within political discussion or when confronted by bureaucrats and the like... I'll try to describe and demonstrate some of the danger posed by certain speech patterns involving the common use of this word. The negative effect, on the process of rational thought, is proportional, both, to the frequency of usage of the word, and ignorance of context. ### The claim is that the word **need** is “over-used and mis-used” by most of us nowadays. ### Like a lot of nice things, the misuse of the word "need" seems to have grown first in america and from there, spread around the english-speaking world. Y'know, just like coca-cola and hamburgers and cabbage-patch dolls.... Why has the frequency of use and misuse grown in the recent few decades?.... With the availability of high tech communication methods to the average joe nowadays, it's likely that we all receive an increasing number of messages and requests for our personal attention, daily. [](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1po47) >For many people it can be more difficult to be heard or noticed in amongst the increased comms traffic... It's probably more common for us to feel more highly stressed from increased pressures at work or from financial problems _(..at least exacerbated by the actions of central bankers and their cronies, blowing financial bubbles around the world in their continuous programme of fleecing the sheep on an ever escalating scale of intensity...)._ People in society in general are becoming more fearful for their personal security _(...no doubt, contributed to, by the manufacture of ever growing numbers of boogie-men, being continually stuffed under our beds by the politicians and their handlers....)_ One effect of these stresses, is to demand (more) attention from others. _(Perhaps looking for sympathy or empathy or comforting or reassurance etc etc)_ This is where we may find the traditionally everyday language inadequate for purpose. _(Of course we are aware that language evolves in society to facilitate better communication............ well, usually)_ >The words _**want**_ and _**need**_ are common enough words, and their meanings seem similar in some ways. When making a request of someone, it used to be sufficient to just tell them that you **wanted** something. It's normal to have wants. We all have wants. **It does no harm to just say we want something, without explaining why we want it.** It **can be harmful** to accept that someone **needs** something without an explanation or a **qualifier.** - i.e. why it is needed, or what are the consequences if it is not received.. etc. Ask someone, what is the difference between a “want” and a “need.” You'll probably get a response, along the lines of,... “**want** is less important than a **need**” or “a **want** is a selfish thing, whereas a **need** is necessary”..... At some level, most people seem to believe that a **need** is somehow more important, and we should pay more attention to (or give priority to) – a **need**. But.... A “want” is a desire we may have, to help to achieve an end. A “need” is a desire we may have, to help to achieve an end. So, what's the difference?... <center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1rgr1)</center> The difference is that when we use “want,” it's not obligatory to express what the desired “end” may be. Indeed, the end may be achieved in some other way if that particular “want” is not immediately satisfied. _(This is because we are aware that people always have more than one **want** at any particular time, and they are arranged on an vertical scale of value, inside the head of the **wanter**. Priorities are always changing, therefore it is understood that this want is a subjective valuation and sits somewhere on a scale of priority alongside other wants inside the head of the **wanter**)_ [](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1rcGa) On the other hand, when the word **need** is used, it is an imperative. i.e. the desired end can not be achieved unless the **need** is fulfilled. Actually in the “imperative mood” in english, **need** has the tone of an order. >The implication is that the desired end has high priority, and can only be achieved one way, and that is, if the **need** is met. So, where's the problem? Well, when people express a **“need”** without a **qualifier**, or an **explanation** of why it is needed, it is equivalent to them saying that, this **must** be. [](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1prLU) The implication is that their need is **objectively infinitely important**............ which, of course is utter bullshit. They are claiming that their end is of **infinite objective value.** If you accept his claim, then you are obliged to give your own **subjective values** a lower status than their claim. Now, that is bad enough when dealing with friends or family...... Many people will claim that, for example, living healthily is infinitely important to them. But that is demonstrably rubbish. If they actually believed that, then they wouldn't smoke or drink coffee, alcohol. They would never get in a car, or eat cakes, or indulge in any activity that carries any small risk to their life expectancy. To do so is to falsify their claim that health is of paramount importance. With this in mind, common phrases like..”...I need you to listen to me..” and “...you need to do this..” or, “...you need to learn to drive..” are all examples of someone whining at you to listen to them, above all else that is going on around you. [](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1rxqP) But, it's more than this. As long as we accept this as a legitimate use of the word **need** the result is that we are allowing other people to determine our needs objectively. ( A **need** is certainly not objective). If we allow other people to determine what is valuable to us, then **we** are certainly **not free** to decide what is valuable to us. The result is that we are not free, at all. >Freedom is about making our own decisions and choices, based on our own subjective values. Statists and the tools of the state, dressed in fancy costumes, have certainly been trained to use this kind of language when addressing the proletariat. When the useful-idiotic over-zealous bureaucrat is addressing joe public, with language like,... “You **_need_** to listen to me...” or the greasy dough-bag TSA agent shouts...... [](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pj4K) “You **_need_** to stand behind the yellow line...!!” or other such nonsense, there is rarely a qualifier offered. _Oh! For sure there are consequences if you choose not to “obey.” The message is, that you're being told what is important to both you, and to them, and, that it is of infinite importance._ [](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1rRFT) >#### There is always a choice...... but, here, we are being told that there is no choice. #### At the very least, whenever someone tells you that something is needed, ask them to qualify why it is needed. Once a reason has been given, then you can make a value judgement for yourself of how important it is. ….................. (Don't expect much of a sensible answer to your question from a useful idiot of the state. It's unlikely that they have been programmed with reasoned responses). When an unqualified or unsupported **need** is claimed in normal daily conversation, it is usually just a whine. “....Pay attention to me, me, me, me....” When used by a tool of the state, it is an attempt by them to define your reality. They live in a certain reality, and they intend to make you live in it as well. Don't underestimate how desperate they are to make you accept their reality. By their very job description, they really do not like the idea of you being free, in thought or deed. _(They find it frightening.... but that's another story..)_ ##### It's probably not a good idea to get rid of this word, **need** from the English language completely, since it can convey meaning when used in conjunction with its qualifiers. To propose complete elimination of the word, would result in limiting vocabulary and therefore degrading the versatility of language. - i.e. carrying out exactly the thing that I am attempting to expose. (You can smell the irony...) ##### |
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"title": "I need you to need my neediness............... Just …. because.....you neeeeeeed to...",
"body": "**I need you to need my neediness............... Just …. because.....you neeeeeeed to...**\n\n>George Orwell described how and why the control, manipulation and restriction of language in a population affects the ability of individuals to not only communicate their desires and feelings, but to restrict the initiation and formulation of ideas and the communication thereof. \n\n**i.e. Limiting the diversity and subtlety of meanings of words and their combinations makes it harder to think!!**\n<center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pVPs)</center>\n\nOf course people are always trying to affect the ideas of everyone they communicate with. The method used by _peaceful_ people is usually persuasion. However, even here, it is common to find language being stretched and squeezed somewhat, in ways that will hopefully be found persuasive enough to the listener, that it results in some idea being mutually agreed upon.\n\nIt could be the sales pitch from the used car salesman\n<center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1rEus)</center>\n\nor it may be some girlfriends trying to agree on which dance club to attend on a Friday night.\n<center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1puB6)</center>\n\n“Normal” people usually attempt persuasion by presenting arguments, constructed and supported by using **logic, reason and evidence.**\n[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pTm0)\n\nSo-called **thought controllers** appeal to other facets of human character, usually the emotional side of our character.\n>Fear... envy... hate... anger... are emotional states that can be useful to them if certain concepts and ideas can be anchored to those emotional states.\n\n_(They rarely adopt logical arguments. That's too risky, since their ideas could never stand up to the rigours of logical argumentation)_\n<center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1rZae)</center>\n**Propaganda** seems to be the general method used to carry out this **emotional anchoring.** Propaganda is a general term used to include a range of techniques that may be employed in order to achieve the desired effect in the target audience.\n<center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pLmi)</center>\n\n**Some examples of propaganda techniques............**\n\n**Exaggeration** - \"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.\" - _Adolf Hitler_\n[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pHMa)\n\n1: **Bandwagon** - This technique tries to persuade everyone to join in and do the same thing.\n\n<center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1p2k3)</center>\n\n2: **Testimonial** - An important person or famous figure endorses a product or idea.\n[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1rAEl)\n\n3: **Transfer** - Good feelings, looks, or ideas transferred to the person for whom the product or idea is intended.\n<center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1rli8)</center>\n\n4: **Repetition** - The product name or keyword or phrase is repeated several times.\n[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1p6s6)\n\n5: **Emotional Words** - Words such as luxury, beautiful, paradise, and economical are used to evoke positive feelings in the viewer.\n\n<center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pDIe)</center>\n\n6: **Name-calling** - Negative words are used to create an unfavourable opinion of the competition or dissenters, in the minds of the audience.\n\n[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pOsD)\n\n7: **Faulty Cause and Effect** - Use of a product or political idea is credited for creating a positive result.\n<center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pQIu)</center>\n\n8: **Compare and Contrast** - The audience is led to believe one political ideal is better than another, although no real proof is offered\n[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pMbS)\n\n_(List of techniques from aacps.org)_\n\n>The **mass media's spewing of political propaganda** in all its forms, can be a powerful tool, to those that control it, and is used to restrict and manipulate ideas.\n\nIt has undeniably achieved great progress towards the goal of **mass thought control over large sections of the population.**\n<center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pNmW)</center>\n\nWhen speaking with friends about some particular subject, our choice of language is determined to some extent, where, and by whom we were introduced to that subject. i.e. When discussing a subject we are learning about in school, it's likely that we'll use the same terms and phrases that the lecturer used when teaching the subject.\n\nLikewise if are introduced to some news via mainstream media, we'll adopt the same terms they reporter used in his reporting. Unless we decide to research the subject in greater depth, we'll likely just continue to use the same terminology when referring to the subject.\n\nOne result of this use of _selected language_, is that, we all use words and phrases at least from time to time without really thinking too deeply about what the words have come to actually mean, or why we use those words and phrases, repeatedly in certain contexts......\n\nAn example of which might be – at least familiar to readers of this essay - the term **“conspiracy theory.”**\n\nAround the time of the killing of JFK in Dallas Texas in Nov 1963, the term “conspiracy theory” seems to have been introduced by the media -possibly via CIA or some other alphabet coven - _(supposedly as a kind of shorthand, to describe those who expressed some doubt about the official story of the JFK assassination)._ It was taken by the CIA, and its meaning deliberately manipulated, so that it, (along with the phrase **“conspiracy theorist”**) eventually became a pejorative term.\n\nThe moulding of this term, and anchoring, with the now familiar negative connotations was achieved over a period of time, via the CIA-controlled mass media organisations. **The propaganda techniques of “repetition” and “ridicule”** were employed when describing people (conspiracy theorists), who expressed **scepticism, doubts, suspicion** or made claims of the distortion of “facts” of the JFK case in Dallas.\n\nReaders may wish to do some research on CIA [“operation mocking bird”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird) for more information on how the control of mass media was and is carried out up to the present day.\n\nThe term **“conspiracy theory” has now become a propaganda tool,** with which, political dissenters and sceptics can be “clubbed over the head” and verbally subdued, or at least the form or flow of their argument can be disrupted during conversation.\n\nIt is a term employed by government apologists and statists, to compose [ad-hominem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) attacks on opponents during debate, who would otherwise threaten the efficacy of the mass delusion of the benevolent character of government in general.\n\ne.g. The idea is that, while the word **“conspiracy”** merely means the planning of some activity, made by two or more people to be carried out sometime in the future. It may be made in secret...... or not. It's basically just **a plan to cooperate to achieve some goal.**\n\nWhile everyone very often – in their daily lives - **conspires** with another party to combine their complimentary resources in order to achieve some end, the word was taken and consistently, and ridiculously associated with so-called (vaguely defined) **“dark forces”** or **“secret societies”** in the state-controlled mass media.\n\n_Conspriracy_\nWhen used in association with the word “theory or theorist” the result is, an attack on the credibility, of the person or group being labelled conspiracy theorist(s). The perceived plausibility, of any future argument put forward by that opponent on any matter is therefore damaged. Basically a foundation for a character assassination has been created.\n\n<center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1phlJ)</center>\n\nSince many of us probably think that the word “guess” would adequately serve as a suitable synonym for “theory”, we effectively internally translate **“conspiracy theorist”** as someone who imagines or guesses that **secret societies, aliens, or people from dark government agencies are in the business of “coming to get them.**”\n\nOnce that image of the half-crazed, slightly deranged loon, has been planted, we can safely, without further regard to any threat to the plenitude of our intellectual integrity or sense of fair play, dismiss out-of-hand or ignore any further ramblings from him.\n\n>**End Result** – One fewer source of ideas with which we choose to interact. (Worse. We are convinced that it was our free choice - arrived at via our rational thought process, that led us to the decision to sever communications between us and this other person).\n\nFor the thought controllers? - **Mission Accomplished!!**\n\n### Needs and Neediness\nAs mentioned above, this particular example of the distorting and manipulation of language is fairly well known and understood by those somewhat familiar with the idea of “Orwellian Newspeak.”\n\nHowever, there is another example, much more pervasive and in some respects **much more dangerous to individual freedom of thought (and deed).**\n\n>The (mis)use of the word **\"need\"**...... especially within political discussion or when confronted by bureaucrats and the like...\n\nI'll try to describe and demonstrate some of the danger posed by certain speech patterns involving the common use of this word.\n\nThe negative effect, on the process of rational thought, is proportional, both, to the frequency of usage of the word, and ignorance of context.\n\n### The claim is that the word **need** is “over-used and mis-used” by most of us nowadays. ###\n\nLike a lot of nice things, the misuse of the word \"need\" seems to have grown first in america and from there, spread around the english-speaking world. Y'know, just like coca-cola and hamburgers and cabbage-patch dolls.... \n\nWhy has the frequency of use and misuse grown in the recent few decades?....\nWith the availability of high tech communication methods to the average joe nowadays, it's likely that we all receive an increasing number of messages and requests for our personal attention, daily.\n\n[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1po47)\n\n>For many people it can be more difficult to be heard or noticed in amongst the increased comms traffic...\n\nIt's probably more common for us to feel more highly stressed from increased pressures at work or from financial problems _(..at least exacerbated by the actions of central bankers and their cronies, blowing financial bubbles around the world in their continuous programme of fleecing the sheep on an ever escalating scale of intensity...)._\n\nPeople in society in general are becoming more fearful for their personal security _(...no doubt, contributed to, by the manufacture of ever growing numbers of boogie-men, being continually stuffed under our beds by the politicians and their handlers....)_\n\nOne effect of these stresses, is to demand (more) attention from others. _(Perhaps looking for sympathy or empathy or comforting or reassurance etc etc)_\n\nThis is where we may find the traditionally everyday language inadequate for purpose. _(Of course we are aware that language evolves in society to facilitate better communication............ well, usually)_\n\n>The words _**want**_ and _**need**_ are common enough words, and their meanings seem similar in some ways.\n\nWhen making a request of someone, it used to be sufficient to just tell them that you **wanted** something. It's normal to have wants. We all have wants. **It does no harm to just say we want something, without explaining why we want it.**\n\nIt **can be harmful** to accept that someone **needs** something without an explanation or a **qualifier.** - i.e. why it is needed, or what are the consequences if it is not received.. etc.\n\nAsk someone, what is the difference between a “want” and a “need.”\nYou'll probably get a response, along the lines of,... “**want** is less important than a **need**” or “a **want** is a selfish thing, whereas a **need** is necessary”.....\n\nAt some level, most people seem to believe that a **need** is somehow more important, and we should pay more attention to (or give priority to) – a **need**.\n\nBut....\nA “want” is a desire we may have, to help to achieve an end.\nA “need” is a desire we may have, to help to achieve an end.\nSo, what's the difference?...\n<center>[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1rgr1)</center>\nThe difference is that when we use “want,” it's not obligatory to express what the desired “end” may be. Indeed, the end may be achieved in some other way if that particular “want” is not immediately satisfied.\n\n_(This is because we are aware that people always have more than one **want** at any particular time, and they are arranged on an vertical scale of value, inside the head of the **wanter**. Priorities are always changing, therefore it is understood that this want is a subjective valuation and sits somewhere on a scale of priority alongside other wants inside the head of the **wanter**)_\n\n[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1rcGa)\n\nOn the other hand, when the word **need** is used, it is an imperative. i.e. the desired end can not be achieved unless the **need** is fulfilled. Actually in the “imperative mood” in english, **need** has the tone of an order.\n\n>The implication is that the desired end has high priority, and can only be achieved one way, and that is, if the **need** is met.\n\nSo, where's the problem?\nWell, when people express a **“need”** without a **qualifier**, or an **explanation** of why it is needed, it is equivalent to them saying that, this **must** be.\n\n[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1prLU)\nThe implication is that their need is **objectively infinitely important**............ which, of course is utter bullshit.\nThey are claiming that their end is of **infinite objective value.** If you accept his claim, then you are obliged to give your own **subjective values** a lower status than their claim.\n\nNow, that is bad enough when dealing with friends or family......\nMany people will claim that, for example, living healthily is infinitely important to them. But that is demonstrably rubbish. If they actually believed that, then they wouldn't smoke or drink coffee, alcohol. They would never get in a car, or eat cakes, or indulge in any activity that carries any small risk to their life expectancy. To do so is to falsify their claim that health is of paramount importance.\n\nWith this in mind, common phrases like..”...I need you to listen to me..” and “...you need to do this..” or, “...you need to learn to drive..” are all examples of someone whining at you to listen to them, above all else that is going on around you.\n[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1rxqP)\n\nBut, it's more than this. As long as we accept this as a legitimate use of the word **need** the result is that we are allowing other people to determine our needs objectively. ( A **need** is certainly not objective).\n\nIf we allow other people to determine what is valuable to us, then **we** are certainly **not free** to decide what is valuable to us. The result is that we are not free, at all.\n>Freedom is about making our own decisions and choices, based on our own subjective values.\n\nStatists and the tools of the state, dressed in fancy costumes, have certainly been trained to use this kind of language when addressing the proletariat.\n\nWhen the useful-idiotic over-zealous bureaucrat is addressing joe public, with language like,... “You **_need_** to listen to me...” or the greasy dough-bag TSA agent shouts......\n[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1pj4K) “You **_need_** to stand behind the yellow line...!!” or other such nonsense, there is rarely a qualifier offered.\n\n_Oh! For sure there are consequences if you choose not to “obey.” The message is, that you're being told what is important to both you, and to them, and, that it is of infinite importance._\n[](https://www.steemimg.com/image/1rRFT) \n>#### There is always a choice...... but, here, we are being told that there is no choice. ####\n\nAt the very least, whenever someone tells you that something is needed, ask them to qualify why it is needed. Once a reason has been given, then you can make a value judgement for yourself of how important it is. …..................\n(Don't expect much of a sensible answer to your question from a useful idiot of the state. It's unlikely that they have been programmed with reasoned responses).\n\nWhen an unqualified or unsupported **need** is claimed in normal daily conversation, it is usually just a whine. “....Pay attention to me, me, me, me....”\n\nWhen used by a tool of the state, it is an attempt by them to define your reality. They live in a certain reality, and they intend to make you live in it as well.\n\nDon't underestimate how desperate they are to make you accept their reality. By their very job description, they really do not like the idea of you being free, in thought or deed. _(They find it frightening.... but that's another story..)_\n\n##### It's probably not a good idea to get rid of this word, **need** from the English language completely, since it can convey meaning when used in conjunction with its qualifiers. To propose complete elimination of the word, would result in limiting vocabulary and therefore degrading the versatility of language. - i.e. carrying out exactly the thing that I am attempting to expose. (You can smell the irony...) #####",
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| body | check the patent record. it is online and is chock full of things that work or they would not have been issued a patent. the answer is there i already know it. |
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| body | **_Dreaming myself out of a job!_** Virologists tend to have two dreams: discovering a new virus, or eradicating an existing one. I fall into the latter category. <center><img src="https://www.steemimg.com/images/2016/09/08/FCoVBannedPosterc25f4.jpg" /></center> For three decades I’ve studied feline infectious peritonitis (FIP) and come to the conclusion that the search for a cure is like closing the door after the horse has bolted: most of these cats are just too sick to be fixed. How about we stop the cat getting infected in the first place? Of course, that is the principle of vaccines, and there is an FIP vaccine: Felocell FIP, which can prevent up to 75% of FIP cases. <center><img src="https://www.steemimg.com/images/2016/09/08/FelocellFIP9c41c.jpg" /></center> <center><img src="https://www.steemimg.com/images/2016/09/08/Intranasalcatvaccine49c5a.jpg" /></center> Some vaccines – e.g. smallpox, rabies – have succeeded in eradicating viruses when widely used. I remember a wonderful lecture where the speaker showed a chart of rabies cases in Poland falling year after year after a countrywide campaign of aerial drops of rabies vaccine, targeting the wildlife reservoir of the virus and wiping it out. <center><img src="https://www.steemimg.com/images/2016/09/08/Rabiesbaitdropf5675.jpg" /></center> Similar results were obtained in Germany. <center><img src="https://www.steemimg.com/images/2016/09/08/Rabiesgraphdcdb4.jpg" /></center> So what about FIP, or rather, feline coronavirus (FCoV), the virus which causes FIP? Well, the FIP vaccine isn’t sterilising – which means that a vaccinated cat can still excrete virus in his or her faeces after getting infected, he just won’t develop FIP. Prevention of FCoV infection in cats is a bit like prevention of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) in humans: the key is to avoid being exposed to the virus and antibody testing is the way to go. For example, porn stars are regularly antibody tested for HIV antibodies to avoid exposing their co-workers to infection. Over the past few years I have made a careful study of FCoV antibody tests: my quest was to find a test in which I could be absolutely confident that a negative result really truly meant that a cat had no FCoV: i.e. a test that was very sensitive and gave no false negative results. I found such a test, it was the FCoV/FIP Immunocomb, made by Biogal, and it is a complete kit in itself, requiring no more complicated laboratory equipment than an ordinary scanner that comes with most printers. (Though I do recommend buying a laboratory grade pipette (e.g. from Anachem or Dutscher) to accurately measure out the 5 microlitres of sample the test kit requires, rather than using the little pipettes which come with the kit.) <center><img src="https://www.steemimg.com/images/2016/09/08/FCoVFIPImmunocomb201076a13.jpg" /></center> Using the Immunocomb and other, sensitive, FCoV antibody tests, people can screen any cat they would introduce to their existing cats to be sure of NOT introducing FCoV. https://youtu.be/nDy1VPiA9z8 Since 70% of FIP cases come from cat breeders, buyers of purebred kittens should insist on seeing a FCoV negative antibody test certificate before handing over their hard-earned money – otherwise they are headed for months of huge veterinary bills and heartache. <center><img src="https://www.steemimg.com/images/2016/09/08/Poster1A9039a.jpg" /></center> If you found this article useful, please vote it up and become a follower of my articles @catvirus. For more information on FIP diagnosis and treatment; to learn how to breed FCoV free kittens; for free veterinary continuing professional development, (continuing education); or to buy the ebook “FIP and Coronavirus” visit www.catvirus.com The book is also available from Amazon. >FIP veterinary-medicine coronavirus cats virology feline-peritonitis cat-disease catvirus rabies FCoV felocell-fip vaccine cat-virus cure-fip diagnosis immunocomb antibody tests veterinary-cpd continuing-professional-development pipette microlitres immunisation |
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| body | "...His power existed because he had the strength and skills to force everyone to follow his rule...." Surely you're not trying to say that Genghis Kahn was just a thug that went around single-handedly beating people up and killing them just because they opposed his claim that he had a right to "rule" them. Are you suggesting that maybe 1/2 dozen guys that opposed him couldn't just have got together and killed him before he caused any more trouble? Did he rule over 1000's of people because they were all afraid of him? He's only one guy, after all. You can't really expect anyone to believe that, surely? (There wasn't a "reply" button below your previous comment so I'm afraid I had to put my comment here). |
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| body | What aren't you getting? Ghengis Kahn ruled by killing anyone who opposed him, not " because the majority of a population has been taught to believe, there is a right to wield such power over real people." His power existed because he had the strength and skills to force everyone to follow his rule. |
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| body | Yep. Just seems to be a mass delusion, held by lots of people. Thanks for comment. |
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| body | It's possible to disagree with a claim or an opinion. Genghis Kahn was not an opinion or a claim. Please present an argument..... "....he ruled because he'd kill anyone who disagreed...." This statement is either incomplete or meaningless. Explain what you mean.. |
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| body | there is no such thing as legitimate authority |
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| body | Ghengis Kahn. |
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| permlink | re-tee-em-re-kak-power-of-the-ruling-political-class-20160906t025153699z |
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| body | Yep! Here it is - straight from the horses arse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D64KcZsD82E |
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| body | Disagreed with what? |
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| body | Government by definition is the initiation of force |
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