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While independent free states remained even to them a laudable goal, they genuinely feared that a divided union would fall and so they signed on to the 1789 union then spent weeks trying to defend their actions through essays published in newspapers nation wide.\n\nNot long after, President Madison declared war on England in 1812 because the British kept sinking American boats trying to sail across the Atlantic.  England fully intended to command the entire maritime trade and Madison knew the fledgling nation would never experience any semblance of fair value while England was the only carrier.  By way of the collective Navy, the American traders had a chance to survive.  That mindset has seemingly not left the American psyche one bit.\n\nSyria has very little chance to rebuild its nation without access to oil and gas.  While its great that the Kurds want their own state, for the sake of the population in Homs, Raqqa and Aleppo, Syria needs access to oil and gas.  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If the colonial powers knew about fossil fuels then, the world map would surely be really different today.  \n\nI'm pretty sure Jesus never said \"Its okay to bomb brown people and steal their resources.\"  Yet here we are.  Turkey got the ability to grow incredible groves of olives, oranges, grapes and hemp, but unfortunately, they're really hungry for oil.  Given that they're a very large Federalist state, they do have the ability to steam roll their neighbors, but that clearly wasn't the message of Jesus.  Islam, maybe, but even there, respect for your neighbor is a pretty standard tenant of any Abrahamic religion (despite Abraham doing the exact opposite.)  Its still a pretty well accepted truth if only by way of the second commandment.\n\nThe foundation of Federalism is fear of a neighbor's collective; the desire to protect one's collective against onslaught from another's.  Seems the Kurds learned pretty quickly that powerful nations can steamroll even soldiers of the highest morale. So to stop the invasion, they have finally called upon their designated collective for aid.  Even the Kurdish leaders now regard their need for Federalism.  Maybe if they were able to reign in the terrorist bombings of their small enclaves of warriors, they, like the Cherokee Indians, probably wouldn't be attacked quite the way they've been.  Turkey has suffered 3x the number of civilian casualties at the hands of Kurdish terrorists as the Americans did in the World Trade Center attack, and for the small group of violent thugs, the majority of civilians are now on the run.\n\nIn my dreams I envision the largest collectives dividing into smaller groups which would then allow the nearby small groups some badly sought after breathing room.  I would love to see the four largest nations in the world, every year, divide themselves in half, and break the world down into a series of smaller and smaller groups.  Probably not in my lifetime, but its still a goal the UN could seek.  Granted, the veto of the Security Council would be five strong on that, but the idea I think is still pretty good.  China wouldn't go for it until after the Americans did, and Russia wouldn't probably ever.  They've learned a couple times the dangers of internal divisions; had Stalin not united the forces by cleaning out the military's europhilic core, it would probably be German today.  20 million lives is a pretty big price to pay, and forget soon they surely will not.\n\nFederalism allows for the collective protection of the group.  Terrorism is certainly a way to confound the Federal machine, and while wealth extraction by the majority is almost impossible to stop, terrorism seems possibly able.  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No small group in the Americas had the ability to resist a British invasion; they knew the collective was their only chance of survival.  They knew the horrors of imperialism and had lost many lives to end it.  To slip back into its grip would be a critical failure--to lose the experiment in rational government was something he couldn't possibly allow.  This was his mandate.  He believed people elected him as their representative to protect their ernest civilization AND provide autonomy,  \"...we must perceive at once the difficulty of mingling them [stability and liberty] together in their due proportions.\" (#37)\n\n![blue-ridge.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmV8Waw8wGbs9jCSRmwCFxnhET8a8BwRxC7arHSnY1V69N/blue-ridge.jpg)\nFrom the top of the Blue Ridge, towards Madison's home.\n\nHamilton didn't much describe the same sense of individualism, he wanted to spread the good seed of modern wisdom, he wanted to project the morality of American ideology.  He perceived that without collective Christian morality \"the guilt of all would become the security of all\" (#16).  For Hamilton the risk of Spanish, French and English infiltration was the greatest risk to defend.  Hamilton was also quite ready to moralize upon the Old World, he was ready to share the wealth of American morality and justice for the sake of the plebs still under the monarchical yolk.  Hamilton was going to spread the good seed of this \"novelty in the political world\" (#14), he was a forefather of the Northern Integrity, of the new high bar of moral righteousness.  Small things like local autonomy were no match for the wisdom of this grand design.\n\n![ronoake2.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmZcHdzDzNzL74y4jFXjm3wmRohLztCa4PAjaqU7WnAbb5/ronoake2.jpg)\n\nBut Madison wasn't from New York.  The Virginia mind didn't really fear the British the same way, if only because the settlements were higher up river where the British Navy had to tack close to the defensible shore.  By 1789 the good land by the ocean had been exhausted by excess tobacco production and if the foreign legions were going to invade, the Virginians could hit the invaders with shore based artillery long before they got near the village.\n\n![JYWA3204.JPG](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmcgA27qsddKwE47wqQqUh7KCqfAXqBwcMZBbgHZKY544X/JYWA3204.JPG)\n\nJames Madison, like Hamilton, did see value in a union of independent states, to me the key difference is that Madison wanted the union to protect each other from outside aggressors while Hamilton wanted the union to bolster financial acumen and to project a moral ideology beyond the union's borders, he perceived a \"great advantage for commercial purposes.\" (#11)\n\n![1994_ramsayphotography2019.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmf779Qw3mEzCUFrumNYy2ea3DtFAERWZALi9rAQ61hxMK/1994_ramsayphotography2019.jpg)\n\nMadison's caution in #10: \"The influence of factious leaders [could lead to] a <b>rage for paper money</b>...or for any other improper or wicked project\"\n\nA rage for paper money.  Modern American elders seem obsessed to find their only security in their paper money, government today seems solely focused on the perpetuation of growing paper money assets.  We continue to lose the means to produce items of value and instead are \"addicted to war...and desires of unjust acquisitions\" exactly as Hamilton cautioned in #6.  \n\n\nGeorge Washington, in his farewell speech [said](https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=true&doc=15&page=transcript), \"It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world\" yet Orange Man Bad tries to lessen such foreign entanglements and the [liberal world goes berserk](https://off-guardian.org/2019/10/10/trumpbetrayedthekurds-progressive-hollywood-calls-for-war/). \n\nMadison spoke of the \"precious right of the people to <b> abolish or alter their governments</b>\" (#40, his emphasis) should \"persons elevated...find compensations for betraying their trust\" (#22) using Sweden as an example where \"parties were alternately bought by France and England.\"  They thought this so important that it \"became an article of the Bill of Rights\" then added \"the raising or keeping a standing army within the kingdom in time of peace...was against the law.\" (#26) He continued, \"the people of America may be said to have derived an hereditary impression of danger to liberty from standing armies in times of peace.\" (#26)\n\n![NAIA0335.JPG](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmcvQt5uHqMSU5xJtpPHhzCeWFk2cuVtL3rXC4dTtipPgc/NAIA0335.JPG)\n\nHow far we have fallen!  Currently the house and senate are [forming bi-partisan bills](https://www.nationalreview.com/news/lindsey-graham-chris-van-hollen-announce-bipartisan-sanctions-against-turkey/) to block this exact thing. Instead of studying history they've collectively found compensations for betraying their trust through [lobbyists](https://www.defense.gov/Our-Story/Biographies/Biography/Article/1378166/dr-mark-t-esper/) giving security in paper money.\n\nA standing army consuming half the Federal budget when the nation is not at war. Surely Washington Hamilton and Madison would all be aghast.\n\n<><><>\nPersonal note:\nWe've potentially found a long term place, with internet.  When its solid for sure, I'll update y'all on our situation.  Over the summer we made it through a number of states and I'll fill in the details of each, as I'm able, shortly.  Its pretty tricky posting from a van in a campground and now maybe we are clear of that for a while.\n\nall photos in Virginia ©ramsayphotography2019",
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