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      "body": "Thanks a lot for your helpful remarks @theminimalists.  I too am watching carefully to see if support holds just above 10K (indeed I am planning to put some new money into that pot somewhere between 14K and 10K, on the **guess** that the support will hold).\n\nI share your view on not worrying about the robots based on  an observation made when I was trading among them in the stock market. They will ‘do their thing’ within wide trading bands (pricewise); but those bands can sometimes fall within progressively rising (or falling) plateaus (for the short to intermediate trend curve), so that if you are going long and the plateaus are rising you just have to get on board and ignore the robots' games, as long as you realize it may be many months/years for your price to bring your serious profits. (That is, you will have to wait until the robots' trading range to be on a plateau far above the one that was in place when you got on board.)\n\nRE. “However, I do try to convince them to buy to try and make a transaction to see how it can be used for tangible goods. It gives them a glimpse of what the future will be like.”  I feel that you have touched on bitcoin’s (or the crypto space’s) killer app here --  society gradually evolves so that a wide range of real goods and services can be bought and sold without having to cross the bridge between crypto and fiat. Japan seems to be leading the way on this.\n\nWhy is this a killer app? For the first time in world history ordinary people can create sums of money large enough to power an entire economy, as long as the 'rest of the world' builds a strong network support around that money.  That creation used to be one of the Kings Royal Prerogatives (at least until Our Great Central Bank snatched it away from the King)!\n\nInteger units of bitcoin will not provide a platform for that to happen (even with lightning fast transactions); but what if the price rises to $100,000+ for one BTC?  Then you could run a big economy by using fractions of 1 BTC, I think.  \n\nJim Rickards has made this point at various times in response to the argument that the world’s economy could not be based on gold. His response is “all you have to do is raise the price of an ounce of gold high enough”.  The problem with gold, of course, is that we can’t trade around fractions of gold  -- which, my friend, is another part of the bitcoin killer app!\nCheers!",
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      "body": "You are so kind @theminimalists!  I share your enthusiasm over the potential of a nice crypto portfolio to do far more far more for me than a block of fiat-based fixed income holdings when I will need to spend down the capital in future years (God willing re. both health and longevity), and over the potential of community-based cryptos to lift people out of abject poverty at various places around the world. (This latter assumes that those community economies will evolve to the point that there will be minimal need for people to cross the bridge between crypto and fiat to buy bread and pay rent. \n\nRe. my crypto holdings today, I have three copies of my private and public keys on paper, and on an external hard drive and a USB drive, neither of which are accessible to hackers for anything more than a few minutes at a time. The only pieces I have at an exchange more or less indefinitely are the few dollars locked in Steem Power.\n\nP.S. I hope you are already or are planning to get nimble on one or two of the decentralized exchanges (at this point I have only plans but they will be implemented very soon  -- two of them: Bitshares and Bisq).  There are so many stories on the Net now about people not having access to their stuff at the exchanges at the most awkward times.\n\nRe. Bitshares, I have spent several hours digging through the literature about their problems, going back to big debates about their “failure” during 2015. I feel their DEX has a solid future, **except** there is a good bet SEC will declare BTS to be an illegal security.  I am wondering the Bitshares Foundation will be forced to take BTS off the market when that happens.  (BTW, I read that getting SEC approval for your security offering costs about $300,000, so I wonder why @Dan’s dad doesn’t cash out some his crypto holdings and get on with seeking SEC approval for BTS.) \n\nAnyway, if you see a key reason why my optimism on the future of the Bitshares DEX needs to be reconsidered do let me know. Also, I read a long and learned exchange in Reddit where it was agreed among the discussants that STEEM also faces the same fate as BTS, regarding SEC eventually declaring it to be an illegal security based on the Howey test.\n\nI am new to cryptos only as a holder of the stuff. I was studying books and educational videos about bitcoin and blockchain back in early 2015; but until I stopped my active stock options trading in fall 2016 I never had any interest in buying cryptos. \nCheers!",
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      "body": "You bring up an interesting point on trading robots.  As I am typing this the last price of Bitcoin has substantial gone done within the thousands (so within the hundredths it's extremely volatile).  Although I don't know the numbers of trading robots I think by looking at the numbers when the spike had hit into the 11k and continuing to go up from a traders' point of view the opportunity for money to be made was inevitable.  The highest point has been in the 17k and it's currently moving up and down in the 14ks.  Anywhere between those numbers traders have been making money.  If it steadies at around the 14ks then things are looking good because it tells me that the numbers of actual users are putting their belief into cryptocurrency.  \n\nIn war there will always be casualties and someone is gaining or losing, especially those that look it like a stock.  When it went up $17k and now down $14k they are kicking themselves thinking they lost $3k.  While true if they brought in at $17k it definitely looks that way but that is also no looking at the big picture.    \n\nI guess what I'm saying is not to worry about the robots.  They will destroy someone's belief in the cryptocurrency system because as human beings we are emotional.",
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