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      "body": "Jesus said, \"I go to prepare a place for you.\"\n\nWhat specific preparation is being carried out by Jesus at this very moment in time while human beings continue to suffer? And, where is that place?\n\nDon't forget that Jesus was supposed to have returned before ALL the desciples died. So the promise of Jesus was false. Read the New Testament carefully.\n\n\"With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.\" \n\nReally?\n\nDoes that mean that suffering from cancer for one day is equivalent to suffering from cancer for, say, 20 years? Your 'God' doesn't have anything to worry about, but humans do. The statement might apply to an invisible fictional 'God', but commonsense dictates that the statement is nonsense as it applies to human affairs. Human life has a limited time span. No human lives forever.\n\n\" ... not wanting anyone to perish\"\n\nThat's disingenuous. Based on the Christian view of the world, the 'all-knowing 'God' has set-up the world so that there are winners and losers. So much for the so-called 'gift of life'. According to Christianity, many will have that 'gift' taken away from them. And, that being the case, what is so special about this 'God'? Nothing. All 'Gods' are created in the minds of humans.\n\nSaved?\n\nSaved from what? Saved from a world of suffering that no-one asked to be born into? And, then blamed and scapegoated by a 'God' who boasts of 'his' power compared to the relatively weak human being that 'he' created. The 'saved' argument does not stand up to scrutiny.\n\nAs stated before: Don't forget that Jesus was supposed to have returned before ALL the desciples died. So the promise of Jesus was false.\n\nSo strange that the so-called Christian 'God' regarded mankind as 'his' crowning glory, and yet the same 'God' is a violent tyrant and warmonger in the Old testament, then 'his' character is softened in the New Testament. The 'God' of the Bible is like Jekyll and Hyde. \n\nWhy didn't your 'God' use 'his' all-knowing miraculous powers to 'create' mankind perfectly? How can a crowning glory become imperfect IF 'God' 'himself' is perfect? He then turns around and blames what 'he' imperfectly created?\n\nIt's like an author creating a character in a story, then blaming the character for being the thing that the author created. The character cannot create itself. If human beings could create themselves, they would have done a better job than any 'God' in any 'so-called holy book.\n\nThe overall Christian perspective on life is ridiculous and flies in the face of reality.\n\nNo, it didn't have to be this way: your 'God' didn't have to push the button and create a world of misery with the need for all life forms to struggle for survival.\n\nBut, of course, your 'God' does not exist in physical reality because 'God' is an idea. There's the Christian 'God', the Muslim 'God', and the 'God' of the Jews. All three use different 'holy' books, which clearly indicate that there are different ideas as to who / what 'God' is.\n\nIt's important to repeat:\n\n'God' is an idea.",
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      "body": "That last one is easy!  Jesus said, \"I go to prepare a place for you.\"\nPeter tells us that, \"Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your notice: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow to fulfill His promise as some understand slowness, but is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.\"\n\nSo as long as there is one more person that can be saved, He will delay.  It would seem that we are running out of such people, so it shouldn't be much longer.\n\nI'm thinking that there is indeed a correlation between the accumulation of pride in what we have been able to figure out for ourselves and the availability of more people who are open to being saved.  No doubt, that played a role in choosing the time when He would introduce Himself to mankind.\n\nAs for your other points, believers know that this life is just a blip on the eternal time scale and that bad things happen for reasons we can understand.  Just like a wise army recruit knows that she is going to be subject to all kinds of discomfort during her basic training - while that training is just a blip on her coming opportunity to serve with distinction.\n\nMeanwhile, \"the god of this world\" is being allowed to continue to demonstrate the disaster of letting men govern themselves according to his demonic principles.  When this disaster has run its course, Jesus will return to clean house.\n\nIt didn't have to be this way, but that is what men have chosen.",
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      "body": "\"Most of what we humans think we know is merely what we believe. There are very few things that we truly know.\"\n\nThat statement above is very generalised and false. It's a statement that is most appropriate for believers who want to give the false impression that they 'know'. That statement can be re-written like this:\n\n\"Most of what believers think they know is merely what they believe. There are very few things that believers truly know.\"\n\nLook at the proven technology that impacts our lives on a daily basis, then step back to about 3000 years ago.\n\nNow examine your statement in light of the large body of scientific knowledge, research and development, right up to the present time.\n\nThe current body of scientific knowledge would blow the minds of people who lived 3000 years ago. They would regard things that we take for granted, as magic: aeroplane travel, cars, trains, the internet, television, radio, going to the moon, mapping the human genome, advanced medical surgery, splitting of the atom, and millions of high quality consumer products that cater to the needs and desires of all human beings. All of these things represent what we truly know.  These things are based on genuine, human, hard-won knowledge that should not be taken for granted.\n\nIn stark contrast, believers of the major religions have blind faith in an invisible 'God' that oversees worldwide suffering and chooses to do absolutely nothing about it. Surely, not a loving 'God' - a 'God that doesn't suffer from pain, diseases, hunger, lack of shelter, poverty, depression, natural disasters, and death, like human beings do. That picture does not add up to truth. It adds up to ignorance and wild speculation. Not knowledge.\n\n\"There are very few things that we truly know.\"\n\nIf that was true, we would still be living in the stone age. And, that's obviously not the case.\n\nI wonder how the 'Gods' have spent their time since the beginning of 2016?\n\nBecause believers are in contact with, ... and 'know' that 'God' is 'real', they should have an easy time answering that very basic question.",
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