VOTING POWER100.00%
DOWNVOTE POWER100.00%
RESOURCE CREDITS100.00%
REPUTATION PROGRESS76.83%
Net Worth
0.558USD
STEEM
0.000STEEM
SBD
1.062SBD
Effective Power
5.001SP
├── Own SP
0.635SP
└── Incoming DelegationsDeleg
+4.366SP
Detailed Balance
| STEEM | ||
| balance | 0.000STEEM | STEEM |
| market_balance | 0.000STEEM | STEEM |
| savings_balance | 0.000STEEM | STEEM |
| reward_steem_balance | 0.000STEEM | STEEM |
| STEEM POWER | ||
| Own SP | 0.635SP | SP |
| Delegated Out | 0.000SP | SP |
| Delegation In | 4.366SP | SP |
| Effective Power | 5.001SP | SP |
| Reward SP (pending) | 0.661SP | SP |
| SBD | ||
| sbd_balance | 0.000SBD | SBD |
| sbd_conversions | 0.000SBD | SBD |
| sbd_market_balance | 0.000SBD | SBD |
| savings_sbd_balance | 0.000SBD | SBD |
| reward_sbd_balance | 1.062SBD | SBD |
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}Account Info
| name | swansong |
| id | 217224 |
| rank | 659,456 |
| reputation | 5649843376 |
| created | 2017-06-23T17:32:27 |
| recovery_account | steem |
| proxy | None |
| post_count | 7 |
| comment_count | 0 |
| lifetime_vote_count | 0 |
| witnesses_voted_for | 0 |
| last_post | 2017-07-23T17:36:39 |
| last_root_post | 1970-01-01T00:00:00 |
| last_vote_time | 2017-07-02T19:51:15 |
| proxied_vsf_votes | 0, 0, 0, 0 |
| can_vote | 1 |
| voting_power | 0 |
| delayed_votes | 0 |
| balance | 0.000 STEEM |
| savings_balance | 0.000 STEEM |
| sbd_balance | 0.000 SBD |
| savings_sbd_balance | 0.000 SBD |
| vesting_shares | 1034.824516 VESTS |
| delegated_vesting_shares | 0.000000 VESTS |
| received_vesting_shares | 7108.835290 VESTS |
| reward_vesting_balance | 1366.820951 VESTS |
| vesting_balance | 0.000 STEEM |
| vesting_withdraw_rate | 0.000000 VESTS |
| next_vesting_withdrawal | 1969-12-31T23:59:59 |
| withdrawn | 0 |
| to_withdraw | 0 |
| withdraw_routes | 0 |
| savings_withdraw_requests | 0 |
| last_account_recovery | 1970-01-01T00:00:00 |
| reset_account | null |
| last_owner_update | 1970-01-01T00:00:00 |
| last_account_update | 2017-06-23T19:38:51 |
| mined | No |
| sbd_seconds | 0 |
| sbd_last_interest_payment | 1970-01-01T00:00:00 |
| savings_sbd_last_interest_payment | 1970-01-01T00:00:00 |
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}Withdraw Routes
| Incoming | Outgoing |
|---|---|
Empty | Empty |
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}From Date
To Date
2026/05/18 07:05:45
2026/05/18 07:05:45
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 7108.835290 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #106151625/Trx ce6955e8fafacc2afaed3768d7069105d38a7066 |
View Raw JSON Data
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}2026/05/13 07:39:18
2026/05/13 07:39:18
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 4396.624885 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #106009011/Trx e8fa621be8f574df47284d42a3e688e1bd4fb5a3 |
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}2026/04/26 06:16:21
2026/04/26 06:16:21
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 7121.351046 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #105519087/Trx 5b1726e16f67ea8d429ec9f95808ffc8d28f3343 |
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]
}2026/01/24 02:13:15
2026/01/24 02:13:15
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 4438.171704 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #102873875/Trx fa5310576df1f9eb76f14cee27845562a14d2d36 |
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]
}2024/12/17 21:22:33
2024/12/17 21:22:33
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 4602.390901 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #91320076/Trx 885b3e7b121c087807157fa0b92c3f0bcc336da7 |
View Raw JSON Data
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]
}2023/11/14 13:02:09
2023/11/14 13:02:09
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 4771.524433 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #79874186/Trx e690a62aec43ffb62a27a3795e93583cecfaeff9 |
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}2023/09/22 11:21:00
2023/09/22 11:21:00
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 7708.433219 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #78364010/Trx 0d0d18e4586f961206036a937d53495405c9babd |
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}2022/11/03 18:41:45
2022/11/03 18:41:45
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 7930.484657 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #69121612/Trx 48852e93d792f88447c9586a9c402c03075788a5 |
View Raw JSON Data
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}2022/01/17 23:48:42
2022/01/17 23:48:42
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 8150.592258 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #60824765/Trx ca842c2e4291ae56bca58a6752a4f736be8cd802 |
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}2021/06/14 06:57:30
2021/06/14 06:57:30
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 8334.786546 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #54615043/Trx eb8fe5e6f8826cfe0bc8a5264b25796dce08066e |
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}2020/12/11 17:09:09
2020/12/11 17:09:09
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 8522.208520 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #49362285/Trx a35026bf2501bc3ddbf529f35f3243ac4dbc93c3 |
View Raw JSON Data
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}2020/12/06 10:44:27
2020/12/06 10:44:27
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 1912.543513 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #49213793/Trx f717d4146ecd67404285c475a74916b335660275 |
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}2020/12/05 20:47:03
2020/12/05 20:47:03
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 8528.416374 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #49197372/Trx dbe1f5aa2cb3dd65c717263445427ae705fd48d9 |
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}2020/11/03 04:11:15
2020/11/03 04:11:15
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 1920.017158 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #48272576/Trx 3b4e26dc8bf544759fc435018510bb34ac9d807c |
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}2020/05/09 11:48:24
2020/05/09 11:48:24
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 8731.221733 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #43224141/Trx 10cf0751deb9e63b5be02dd04ffcfd7fbf8de913 |
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}2020/05/08 16:18:54
2020/05/08 16:18:54
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 1953.311140 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #43201307/Trx b0ac3360f0c8d6e10a8370a06e91582ff41b384f |
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}2020/04/16 03:43:54
2020/04/16 03:43:54
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 8744.109181 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #42569660/Trx d74217d9dd0e7673048e2d54c59b69fd4ac45e53 |
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}2019/05/12 20:51:24
2019/05/12 20:51:24
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 8939.725994 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #32852628/Trx 890ef031ca4152b98a1b30793a8786255a9051b1 |
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}2018/05/17 03:08:21
2018/05/17 03:08:21
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | swansong |
| vesting shares | 9139.241086 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #22498065/Trx ab0b55f58673d7fce02acc0dd5ad2db6a3a4beea |
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}2018/02/25 05:20:21
2018/02/25 05:20:21
| voter | wildmanwilly |
| author | swansong |
| permlink | re-lpfaust-us-tax-considerations-crypto-to-crypto-trades-trading-bitcoin-and-altcoins-20170723t173635181z |
| weight | 10000 (100.00%) |
| Transaction Info | Block #20170423/Trx e2cd4a86bd7e4a8b404869f460c60d13fa5ff9ef |
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}2018/02/24 23:32:09
2018/02/24 23:32:09
| voter | dragonbiter |
| author | swansong |
| permlink | re-lpfaust-us-tax-considerations-cryptocurrencies-held-in-foreign-exchanges-20170627t005325224z |
| weight | 10000 (100.00%) |
| Transaction Info | Block #20163463/Trx c6252ba9a9d9fee4ced3728c4f1b001572ca6ce2 |
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| body | Thanks for the detailed post! Personally I always prefer to take the conservative approach with IRS. After reading your post I'll treat ICOs and exchanges between virtual currencies as a tax event. Hopefully we will get clearer guidance soon. BTW, this brings up the question of whether choosing the conservative approach here is indeed elective, i.e., should IRS provide guidelines in the future that the aforementioned events do qualify for 1031, would you then need to amend your return even if you prefer not to? |
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| body | FIFO cost basis reporting seems sensible. An interesting question though is what if you keep your virtual currency in a number of exchanges (for instance, to reduce risk in case of hacking)? Do you apply FIFO across all exchanges/wallets, or within each separately? The former seems the most natural to me since it simplifies your recordkeeping and computation of cost basis; but the question is, what do you think is the most likely interpretation of the law? |
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| body | Hi lpfaust, A couple of questions regarding "What is Basis?" 1. Could you explain how cost basis is computed when you have your virtual currency (say, BTC) spread across multiple places, like multiple exchanges? Do you compute cost basis/capital gain in a FIFO manner across all of them (irrespective of where you keep each portion), or separately for each exchange? For instance, consider the following series of purchase and sell transactions: echange, date, purchase/sell, amt, rate E1, d1, purchase, 2 BTC, 1 BTC = $1000 E2, d2, purchase, 2 BTC, 1 BTC = $2000 E1, d3, purchase, 2 BTC, 1 BTC = $3000 E2, d4, purchase, 2 BTC, 1 BTC = $4000 E1, d5, sell, 4 BTC, 1 BTC = $5000 We have two options here: (a) Consider all of our holdings as one big pile irrespective of where they reside, and handle it in a FIFO manner across all of them, so capital gain is: (4 BTC x $5000) - (2 BTC x $1000 + 2 BCT x $2000) = $14000. (b) Handle each exchange independently, and handle the transactions within that exchange in a FIFO manner, so capital gain is: (4 BTC x $5000) - (2 BTC x $1000 + 2 BCT x $3000) = $12000 Option (a) seems much more natural to me, but I wanted to make sure that's indeed what the law says, if it addresses this aspect at all. 2. This is a follow-up question in case the answer to my first question is (a). Suppose that a couple files jointly with the IRS. Each has their own virtual currency account in an exchange. Each performs a series of purchase and sell transactions. In order to correctly compute cost basis and consequently capital gain, do we use a FIFO system across the accounts or in each account independently? Thanks much for your insights! |
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"body": "Hi lpfaust,\nA couple of questions regarding \"What is Basis?\"\n1. Could you explain how cost basis is computed when you have your virtual currency (say, BTC) spread across multiple places, like multiple exchanges? Do you compute cost basis/capital gain in a FIFO manner across all of them (irrespective of where you keep each portion), or separately for each exchange? For instance, consider the following series of purchase and sell transactions:\nechange, date, purchase/sell, amt, rate\nE1, d1, purchase, 2 BTC, 1 BTC = $1000\nE2, d2, purchase, 2 BTC, 1 BTC = $2000\nE1, d3, purchase, 2 BTC, 1 BTC = $3000\nE2, d4, purchase, 2 BTC, 1 BTC = $4000\nE1, d5, sell, 4 BTC, 1 BTC = $5000\nWe have two options here:\n(a) Consider all of our holdings as one big pile irrespective of where they reside, and handle it in a FIFO manner across all of them, so capital gain is: (4 BTC x $5000) - (2 BTC x $1000 + 2 BCT x $2000) = $14000.\n(b) Handle each exchange independently, and handle the transactions within that exchange in a FIFO manner, so capital gain is: (4 BTC x $5000) - (2 BTC x $1000 + 2 BCT x $3000) = $12000\nOption (a) seems much more natural to me, but I wanted to make sure that's indeed what the law says, if it addresses this aspect at all.\n2. This is a follow-up question in case the answer to my first question is (a). Suppose that a couple files jointly with the IRS. Each has their own virtual currency account in an exchange. Each performs a series of purchase and sell transactions. In order to correctly compute cost basis and consequently capital gain, do we use a FIFO system across the accounts or in each account independently?\n\nThanks much for your insights!",
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| body | Hi lpfaust, An important topic; thanks for covering it! A few questions: 1. Kraken's About page (https://www.kraken.com/en-us/about) says they are based in San Francisco. When you wire money to them from the US, you wire it to TN, USA. Are they really considered a foreign account under these circumstances? 2. As for a case where you have an account in an exchange that is indeed foreign, and where you have multiple currencies (USD, and virtual): a. Do you report a separate account entry for each currency or aggregate all of them (including the USD) into one sum? b. For the USD part I understand that I take the maximum amount during the year, but for the virtual currencies, are they treated as what you referred to in your article as "non-monetary assets"? If so, do I need to aggregate their EOY fair market value plus add any partial withdrawals (with their fair market value at withdrawal time)? What could be great, perhaps in a follow-up blog, is taking a specific example of an account in a foreign exchange with a mix of X USD, Y BTC and Z ETH, and some partial withdrawal of a virtual currency (not zeroing the balance of that currency), and showing what one needs to report in that case. Many thanks for taking the time to respond! |
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| body | Excellent! I'll be looking forward to reading that article. In the meanwhile, I have a few additional tax-related questions. I'll post those in the most appropriate articles, and hopefully others will find the discussions around those beneficial. |
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| body | Excellent! I'll be looking forward to reading that article. In the meanwhile, I have a few additional tax-related questions. I'll post those in the most appropriate articles, and hopefully others will find the discussions around those beneficial. |
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| body | @swansong thanks for your interest in my US Tax Considerations series. I appreciate those who read and comment on my posts. The response to your question will be answered better with a formal blog post, than a comment thread. I will feature this question on a future US Tax Considerations piece in the next two weeks, because it touches on a number of topics (taxing digital currency as a property, barter rules when trading property with other property and capital gain deferral rules of 1031 like kind property exchanges) which I do not thing a reply in a comment thread will do justice to. |
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| body | First, your article series on this important topic of taxation of virtual currencies are excellent. I appreciate you sharing this information! A few questions related to the exchange of one virtual currency for another, and whether it is considered a 1031 like kind exchange: 1. Say I hold 10 BTC in some exchange E1. I want to invest in an ICO and send 2 BTC to the ICO. At a later date the ICO sends me 5000 of their ABC token in return for my ICO investment. Is this considered a 1031 like kind exchange or triggers a tax event? 2. I have 10 BTC in exchange E1. I would like to exchange 2 BTC with another virtual currency DEF but E1 doesn't support it. I transfer 2 BTC to exchange E2, and there perform the exchange of the 2 BTC to 20 DEF. Is this considered a 1031 like kind exchange or triggers a tax event? 3. Could you elaborate on how the tax basis is computed if indeed the exchange is considered a like kind one? Say at date d1 I bought 10 BTC for $10000. At date d2 I exchanged 10 BTC for 40 ETH, and at that date the closing rate of 1 BTC was $10 (total worth is now $100). At date d3, I sold my 40 ETH for $15000 total. How is this handled? Do we (a) simply assume cost basis of $10000 (d1) at the date of sale (d3), and therefore compute $15000 minus $10000 = $5000 as the taxable income; or, do we (b) compute what should have been our tax liability at d2 ($100 minus $10000 = loss of $9900), then at d3 capital gain of $15000 minus $100 = $14900, and then pay the tax on $14900 while deducting over time the maximum loss allowed per year? 4. Say we have a case that satisfies the requirements for a like kind exchange such as the one you describe in your article (exchange X BTC for Y STEEM). Am I permitted, if I so choose, to actually treat it as a tax event, compute the new cost basis, and pay taxes as needed in that tax year? Perhaps if the case is a bit vague and I prefer to be on the safe side, can I simply choose to treat it as a tax event? Many thanks for your insights! |
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