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VOTING POWER100.00%
DOWNVOTE POWER100.00%
RESOURCE CREDITS100.00%
REPUTATION PROGRESS0.00%
Net Worth
0.037USD
STEEM
0.001STEEM
SBD
0.000SBD
Effective Power
5.008SP
├── Own SP
0.633SP
└── Incoming Deleg
+4.375SP

Detailed Balance

STEEM
balance
0.001STEEM
market_balance
0.000STEEM
savings_balance
0.000STEEM
reward_steem_balance
0.000STEEM
STEEM POWER
Own SP
0.633SP
Delegated Out
0.000SP
Delegation In
4.375SP
Effective Power
5.008SP
Reward SP (pending)
0.000SP
SBD
sbd_balance
0.000SBD
sbd_conversions
0.000SBD
sbd_market_balance
0.000SBD
savings_sbd_balance
0.000SBD
reward_sbd_balance
0.000SBD
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Account Info

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id388611
rank870,440
reputation271126256
created2017-09-28T05:30:30
recovery_accountsteem
proxyNone
post_count7
comment_count0
lifetime_vote_count0
witnesses_voted_for1
last_post2017-09-29T17:54:36
last_root_post2017-09-29T17:54:36
last_vote_time2017-09-29T19:47:48
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delayed_votes0
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next_vesting_withdrawal1969-12-31T23:59:59
withdrawn0
to_withdraw0
withdraw_routes0
savings_withdraw_requests0
last_account_recovery1970-01-01T00:00:00
reset_accountnull
last_owner_update1970-01-01T00:00:00
last_account_update1970-01-01T00:00:00
minedNo
sbd_seconds0
sbd_last_interest_payment1970-01-01T00:00:00
savings_sbd_last_interest_payment1970-01-01T00:00:00
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Withdraw Routes

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From Date
To Date
steemdelegated 4.375 SP to @primitive
2026/05/18 05:15:00
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares7114.115805 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #106149417/Trx a0bdcd9cac2130c5dbbf7c0b46c580d764d8d55b
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steemdelegated 2.707 SP to @primitive
2026/05/13 00:06:48
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares4401.905400 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #105999984/Trx f207ef63766dfb6f82f227698975f9432f2ad40f
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steemdelegated 4.382 SP to @primitive
2026/04/26 04:28:21
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares7126.631561 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #105516932/Trx d319f1b81bae0a0c2ecd0302eeff63ef416677b1
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steemdelegated 2.732 SP to @primitive
2026/01/23 21:13:39
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares4443.452219 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #102867895/Trx 13ff80c97cdabd3ccb966839667407f066300e44
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steemdelegated 2.833 SP to @primitive
2024/12/17 16:24:45
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares4607.671416 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #91314130/Trx ed3ce65849691356061497ffdbb733d56a1c5bb5
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steemdelegated 2.937 SP to @primitive
2023/11/14 08:06:06
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares4776.804948 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #79868289/Trx 5dd5b56b7c5ca7b9b234573d817c88c122743820
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steemdelegated 4.743 SP to @primitive
2023/09/22 09:09:18
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares7713.713734 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #78361387/Trx 500988b6261dd9fec341c7d16960ac4aa0bc7e76
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steemdelegated 4.880 SP to @primitive
2022/11/03 16:46:45
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares7935.765172 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #69119325/Trx 6349501cb7942bafccdbfa587a1248eceb6e1560
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steemdelegated 5.015 SP to @primitive
2022/01/17 22:05:21
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares8155.872773 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #60822702/Trx c941e2da8c0ab78fdf319cff9a688a70f417f65c
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steemdelegated 5.129 SP to @primitive
2021/06/14 05:18:48
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares8340.067061 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #54613084/Trx a26438b4affe8975f5295c78bee1c6fce6676f82
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steemdelegated 5.244 SP to @primitive
2020/12/11 15:31:57
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares8527.489035 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #49360377/Trx ff62a9f28edcc190cde8aab474614875a751cee2
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steemdelegated 1.176 SP to @primitive
2020/12/06 09:08:03
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares1912.543513 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #49211907/Trx d7e19d7ee77e1233badaeceac684bb6f65811b69
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steemdelegated 5.248 SP to @primitive
2020/12/05 19:09:51
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares8533.696889 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #49195460/Trx b80743436424a9261f529180ba9c26d5d630703d
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steemdelegated 1.181 SP to @primitive
2020/11/03 00:46:18
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares1920.017158 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #48268556/Trx aeee79e59eb3296a3ef9391297b81b72ea628a82
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steemdelegated 5.372 SP to @primitive
2020/05/09 10:10:03
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares8736.502248 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #43222222/Trx 9f76dc68ddc3fb27739935c94973ff800bce7eac
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steemdelegated 1.201 SP to @primitive
2020/05/08 14:26:09
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares1953.311140 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #43199102/Trx 15c4ecc3092bbc0c81b2dd9d0d3924fe45581b19
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steemdelegated 5.380 SP to @primitive
2020/04/16 02:42:00
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares8749.389696 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #42568460/Trx f1305bbae513ca0011e89f865070096ff3d1f271
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2019/09/28 05:48:48
authorsteemitboard
bodyCongratulations @primitive! You received a personal award! <table><tr><td>https://steemitimages.com/70x70/http://steemitboard.com/@primitive/birthday2.png</td><td>Happy Birthday! - You are on the Steem blockchain for 2 years!</td></tr></table> <sub>_You can view [your badges on your Steem Board](https://steemitboard.com/@primitive) and compare to others on the [Steem Ranking](https://steemitboard.com/ranking/index.php?name=primitive)_</sub> ###### [Vote for @Steemitboard as a witness](https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/account-witness-vote?witness=steemitboard&approve=1) to get one more award and increased upvotes!
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steemdelegated 5.501 SP to @primitive
2019/05/12 19:49:06
delegateeprimitive
delegatorsteem
vesting shares8945.006509 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #32851383/Trx 4740d2e44d40c637b83a6be73e4958004a691f14
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steemdelegated 5.623 SP to @primitive
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2017/09/29 17:54:36
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2017/09/29 16:48:33
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2017/09/29 16:48:03
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bodyWhile many other regions in Asia have taken a hardline stance on bitcoin, its adoption and the role of cryptocurrency when used against the backdrop of a traditional fiat system, Japan has been remarkably accommodating. ![11.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmUquuzKkGtA7miVsCqsVfJUmVfu8szKBjj9wB3XrA1HHT/11.jpg) Policymakers in the nation officially legalized bitcoin as a transaction tokenback at the start of April this year and essentially kicked off a discussion about legalization in a range of other nations globally – Australia, Switzerland, the UK, and more. This week, Japan has taken yet another step towards adoption and integration of cryptocurrency – well, sort of. The step is not yet taken but, just as was the case with the blanket legalization, just talking about it is likely going to prove enough to make other countries sit up and take notice. We're talking about J-Coin. This would be a cryptocurrency that is set up by the major financial institutions in Japan (so, retail banks, primarily) and that would eliminate the need for cash transactions between banks. It's a remarkably neat solution to a problem that all countries have right now and it's yet another real world implementation of blockchain technology that could pave the way for mainstream adoption. Right now, banks have to monitor cash flow between one another. This is costly, time consuming and is prone to error. The idea behind J-Coin is that, instead of transferring physical cash from bank to bank, all that would need transferring is J-Coin. Each J-Coin would have a fixed 1:1 exchange ratio with the Japanese Yen. When looked at from high concept level, it's nothing more than an accounting tool. With that said, it's a 100% accurate, risk-free, error-free and completely transparent accounting tool that saves time and money for all involved. What more can financial institutions ask for from application of the blockchain to their operations? Reports are that the goal is to have the system in place by the Olympic Games in Tokyo in 2020.
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2017/09/29 16:31:03
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bodyHi! I am a robot. I just upvoted you! I found similar content that readers might be interested in: http://wuweitactic.com/indias-multi-currency-exchange-will-list-bitcoin-cash-intwo-weeks/
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2017/09/29 16:30:06
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bodyThis week, the relatively new India-based cryptocurrency exchange, Koinex, announced the listing of bitcoin cash (BCH) paired with the Indian rupee (INR). ![11.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmWX7ZTDsCtiHkJSs1eCM4VVn5Z5d8ZxkSsdowHYDiTWkd/11.jpg) Koinex Introduces an Altcoin Trading Platform for India India's Multi-Currency Exchange Will List Bitcoin Cash in Two Weeks Koinex introduces India’s first altcoin exchange. A new cryptocurrency exchange called Koinex has been gaining popularity because it is the only Indian trading platform that lists alternative digital assets, rather than BTC/INR pairs only. The exchange currently allows BTC, XRP, LTC, and ETH trading alongside the rupee, making it India’s first altcoin trading platform. In an interview last week, Koinex co-founder Rahul Raj revealed the exchange’s plans to list more digital currencies in the future. “We are planning to bring new coins in the market that adds value to the market,” Raj said. “We are planning to launch coins equipped with modern security which can give traders security to trade in — We have definitely some coins in the pipeline coming up in the market in next few years.” Source : https://news.bitcoin.com/another-bitcoin-fork-bitcoin-gold-project-plans-to-fork-bitcoin-next-month/
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bodyAfter the hard fork on August 1 that produced Bitcoin Cash, many bitcoiners have been waiting for the possibility of a fork taking place this November with the Segwit2x plan. However, a lot of bitcoin proponents don’t know about another fork called “Bitcoin Gold” (BTG) that’s scheduled to take place on October 25th. ![Another-Fork-Bitcoin-Gold-Project-Plans-to-Fork-Bitcoin-Next-Month-1068x1068.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmWXM2s4ZWVDpG9wh7V1d67LBvkUKPKqx9f1JPkD4kBsJP/Another-Fork-Bitcoin-Gold-Project-Plans-to-Fork-Bitcoin-Next-Month-1068x1068.jpg) Bitcoin Gold Plans to Fork Bitcoin and Change the Consensus Mechanism Another Fork? Bitcoin Gold Project Plans to Fork Bitcoin Next MonthYes, you read that correctly bitcoin enthusiasts might see another hard fork this October that produces another token called Bitcoin Gold. The project first announced on Bitcointalk.org in July was created by Jack Liao, the founder of Lightning ASIC a mining firm based out of Hong Kong and an anonymous developer named “h4x3.” The forked protocol aims to change bitcoin’s consensus algorithm allowing users to mine the currency with graphic processing units (GPU) among other changes. According to the development team, Bitcoin Gold will use the Equihash algorithm used by the altcoin Zcash rather than bitcoin’s original SHA256. “Bitcoin Gold implements the UAHF (User Activated Hard Fork) proposal to accept GPU mining,” explains the website archive. “Miners can choose the size of the blocks they want to mine, with a default of 1 MB. It includes replay and wipeout protection.” Source : https://news.bitcoin.com/another-bitcoin-fork-bitcoin-gold-project-plans-to-fork-bitcoin-next-month/
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2017/09/29 12:47:18
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2017/09/29 12:46:15
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bodyAngelica is on her way to the live shows thanks to her powerful rendition of "Girl On Fire" by Alicia Keys! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EExwffrNBMg
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2017/09/28 06:36:39
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2017/09/28 05:35:36
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2017/09/28 05:35:12
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bodyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjK2XlNE39Q *Turn on captions for written commentary (CC in bottom right corner of screen). Charcoal is a valuable fuel that reaches a higher temperature than the very wood it’s made from. I’ve made some before, but with supplies running low due to furnace experiments, I decided to make another large batch of charcoal in a mound. I stacked the wood into a roughly conical shape (about 1 m wide and 75 cm high) and then built a thick wall of mud around the heap (this took 6 hours). Eight air entries were made in the base of the mound and one air exit hole was left at the top of the mound to allow the volatile components of the wood to escape while creating a natural draft to keep everything burning. The mound was lit and the flame burned backwards down the heap in the opposite direction to the draft. This protects the coal made above the level of the fire from burning as carbon dioxide rushes past instead of oxygen, preventing combustion of charcoal. Each air entry was sealed only when fire became visible through them. This is an easy way to tell when to close them up, i.e. when the fire had burned down all of the wood in the heap. When the last air entry was closed, the air exit at the top of the mound was sealed, 5 hours after starting. The next day when cool, a large arched opening was made in the side of the mound to extract the charcoal. Despite a few unburnt brands the yield and quality was good filling almost 2 baskets. To see if the kiln was reusable, I restacked it with timber cut from a fallen gum tree branch up the mountain. Due to the difficulty in reaching into the mound I stacked the wood in criss-crossed horizontal layers. The opening was sealed with mud and the mound lit as before. This time the mound burned quickly and I had to seal it early as the timber was burning at different rates, 3 hours after starting. Some large logs remained unburnt while charcoal that had already formed started to burn up being wasted as ash. When I opened it the next day it had still produced an ok amount of charcoal but was disappointingly low compared to the first batch. This may partly be due to some of the wood being still green though it’s probably more likely to be due to how it was stacked. The lesson here is that when making charcoal the wood needs to be tightly stacked with few air spaces between. If not, the mound admits too much oxygen that quickly burns the timber. Another thought I had was that wood may convert to charcoal better if laid vertically (or roughly so, like the cone in the first firing) so that the fire starts at the top of the wood and burns down. Stacking the wood in horizontal layers means that each layer has to set the one bellow alight leading to problems if the wood is green (use dry wood if stacking horizontally). By stacking wood vertically each piece is alight already and simply burns down towards the air entries. Stacking in this way also makes it easier to see fire in the air entries letting you know when to seal the mound. For the reasons above I may make another charcoal kiln in future in the shape of a cylinder with air entries around the base and an open top. The kiln would be re-usable and easily stacked. A conical pile of wood would protrude above the walls of the kiln and be plastered in a temporary cover of mud. The kiln would be fired as with a normal mound and when finished the temporary cover of mud would be removed to extract the charcoal Wordpress: https://primitivetechnology.wordpress... Patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=2945881 I have no face book page, instagram, twitter etc. Beware of fake pages.
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