VOTING POWER100.00%
DOWNVOTE POWER100.00%
RESOURCE CREDITS100.00%
REPUTATION PROGRESS0.00%
Net Worth
0.036USD
STEEM
0.000STEEM
SBD
0.000SBD
Effective Power
5.007SP
├── Own SP
0.628SP
└── Incoming DelegationsDeleg
+4.379SP
Detailed Balance
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| balance | 0.000STEEM | STEEM |
| market_balance | 0.000STEEM | STEEM |
| savings_balance | 0.000STEEM | STEEM |
| reward_steem_balance | 0.000STEEM | STEEM |
| STEEM POWER | ||
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| Delegation In | 4.379SP | SP |
| Effective Power | 5.007SP | SP |
| Reward SP (pending) | 0.000SP | SP |
| SBD | ||
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| id | 766179 |
| rank | 551,410 |
| reputation | 14625211 |
| created | 2018-02-17T04:23:45 |
| recovery_account | steem |
| proxy | None |
| post_count | 1 |
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| last_post | 2018-02-19T23:57:33 |
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| next_vesting_withdrawal | 1969-12-31T23:59:59 |
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| last_account_recovery | 1970-01-01T00:00:00 |
| reset_account | null |
| last_owner_update | 1970-01-01T00:00:00 |
| last_account_update | 1970-01-01T00:00:00 |
| mined | No |
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| sbd_last_interest_payment | 1970-01-01T00:00:00 |
| savings_sbd_last_interest_payment | 1970-01-01T00:00:00 |
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To Date
2026/05/18 03:35:21
2026/05/18 03:35:21
| delegatee | mbidasar |
| delegator | steem |
| vesting shares | 7121.501093 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #106147431/Trx 33bdea42240538af1ebbb7308f6c50bfb7e2b9c9 |
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2026/05/12 17:21:12
| delegatee | mbidasar |
| delegator | steem |
| vesting shares | 4409.290688 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #105991892/Trx 1347003e3eef10b257b911ef80e9d03a9adf765c |
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2026/04/26 02:51:00
| delegatee | mbidasar |
| delegator | steem |
| vesting shares | 7134.016849 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #105514988/Trx f86ec3f3a960ea88488f4990c7f07b1fabc3c2fd |
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2026/01/23 16:44:48
| delegatee | mbidasar |
| delegator | steem |
| vesting shares | 4450.837507 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #102862529/Trx 4e7b0feb7f38a7eca8661acc300b09b6c3432f19 |
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2024/12/17 11:57:51
| delegatee | mbidasar |
| delegator | steem |
| vesting shares | 4615.056704 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #91308804/Trx a34ee0e63f6b1d98cd9877b040e0fa997bd082e2 |
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2023/11/14 03:39:57
| delegatee | mbidasar |
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| vesting shares | 4784.190236 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #79862982/Trx b43d87ffa80f4d79c952d97b91adfe72cee08057 |
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2023/09/22 01:44:57
| delegatee | mbidasar |
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| vesting shares | 7721.469022 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #78352521/Trx 9abff6ce2136882f4cd6dd014664b0206af3acf1 |
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2022/11/03 15:03:54
| delegatee | mbidasar |
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| vesting shares | 7943.150460 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #69117274/Trx 6e66ea4f28448ae458fade159abc8374ae90c5e2 |
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2022/01/17 20:31:21
| delegatee | mbidasar |
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| vesting shares | 8163.258061 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #60820833/Trx 149bf53f1e8aec48ebb6fb5418754e1f7ac24f74 |
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2021/06/14 03:49:30
| delegatee | mbidasar |
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| vesting shares | 8347.452349 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #54611315/Trx c22b4f138ca67d9ab3a6e1b74d56ebb02a6de273 |
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2020/12/11 14:04:33
| delegatee | mbidasar |
| delegator | steem |
| vesting shares | 8534.874323 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #49358658/Trx b092c52985cafd97eb8c988b436baea5eada471c |
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2020/12/06 07:40:39
| delegatee | mbidasar |
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| vesting shares | 1912.543513 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #49210196/Trx 16623dde8cf7bbc4b4aa0d9b5d6daa36e969b627 |
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2020/12/05 17:42:18
| delegatee | mbidasar |
| delegator | steem |
| vesting shares | 8541.082177 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #49193744/Trx 73c968e9d64f0566f4beefe02536aeeef0269fbb |
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2020/11/02 21:46:45
| delegatee | mbidasar |
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| Transaction Info | Block #48265035/Trx e7d1a626f88baf5d4a4f6471f22a36a23a159450 |
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2020/05/09 08:41:18
| delegatee | mbidasar |
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| vesting shares | 8743.887536 VESTS |
| Transaction Info | Block #43220488/Trx 7e05db8db2ed5c2ca7faf9282b61d2b5d971e63c |
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2020/05/08 12:44:27
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2020/04/20 16:51:18
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2020/02/17 05:14:36
| author | steemitboard |
| body | Congratulations @mbidasar! You received a personal award! <table><tr><td>https://steemitimages.com/70x70/http://steemitboard.com/@mbidasar/birthday2.png</td><td>Happy Birthday! - You are on the Steem blockchain for 2 years!</td></tr></table> <sub>_You can view [your badges on your Steem Board](https://steemitboard.com/@mbidasar) and compare to others on the [Steem Ranking](https://steemitboard.com/ranking/index.php?name=mbidasar)_</sub> **Do not miss the last post from @steemitboard:** <table><tr><td><a href="https://steemit.com/steemitboard/@steemitboard/valentine-s-day-challenge-give-a-badge-to-your-beloved"><img src="https://steemitimages.com/64x128/http://i.cubeupload.com/LvDzr5.png"></a></td><td><a href="https://steemit.com/steemitboard/@steemitboard/valentine-s-day-challenge-give-a-badge-to-your-beloved">Valentine's day challenge - Give a badge to your beloved!</a></td></tr></table> ###### [Vote for @Steemitboard as a witness](https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/account-witness-vote?witness=steemitboard&approve=1) to get one more award and increased upvotes! |
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| body | It all depends on your situation. For me buying a multifamily property in NJ and renting out 2 units while living on the top apartment for free was the best option. I lived across the bridge in NYC prior to that and payed over 2k in rent. When I moved to jersey I bought a 3 Unit house with an FHA Loan payed about 30k in down payment and closing costs. My mortgage is about $3,300 but I rented my first floor for $2,000 (3 bedroom) and my lower level floor for $1,400. So it all worked perfect financially. Like I said though it all depends on your situation when you rent you don't have to deal with all the crap a landlord has to deal with. So that is definitely a plus. |
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| body | First, the wonkish answer. Considering financial costs only, the cost of renting is simply your 1) Actual rent + 2) Renter's insurance + 3) Difference in uncovered utilties between a rental and owned property. This sum can be compared to the financial cost of ownership of a nearly identical property. This is tougher to precisely quantify, and includes many subtle (yet considerable) costs often overlooked. But regardless, it's good to be qualitatively aware of them all. I'll start with the simple ones. Please note that none of the following is building any equity or savings. It's all money permanently out the door. A) HOA Fees. B) Homeowner's Insurance. C) Property Taxes. To get the true cost, multiple by (1 - Your marginal tax bracket). This is a reasonable approximation. Even if you currently take the standard deduction, you would likely itemize as a homeowner. As with all tax write-offs, it's important to remember not to let the tax tail wag the investing dog. D) Interest on Mortgage. As you pay off your mortgage, this will decrease because each monthly payment (presumably constant) will consist of interest calculations on a progessively smaller outstanding principal balance. As in C), adjust downward based on your tax bracket due to its deductability. E) Opportunity Cost of Equity in Home. As you pay off your mortgage, this will increase. Consider what you could earn on the cash tied up in your home in a medium-term CD at a FDIC-insured commercial bank. Of course it's better to have equity and "lose" this rate than have a mortgage and pay a higher rate (this spread is how banks make money after all). So if you have the cash and won't need it for anything important in the near future, I recommend foregoing the mortgage completely. Leveraging yourself to invest in risky assets is a bad idea. As before, adjust downward due to the taxability of interest income. F) Transaction's Costs. Depending on where you purchase, as well as the complexity of your deal, these can be substanitial. Typically, the largest one by far is a broker's commission. An often heard mantra is "You don't pay a commission, the seller does." This is misleading at a minimum, even if technically true. The 5-6% commission is paid by the seller to the seller's agent, who typically then splits it with the buyer's agent. However, if the seller didn't have to pay this commission, he/she would be able to offer you as the buyer a lower price - so effectively this is a cost to both parties to the transaction. Other transaction's costs may include transfer taxes, legal fees, and closing costs. So conservatively speaking, unless you do a FSBO (for sale by owner, i.e. no broker on either end) deal, these costs can total 7-8% of your purchase price. This means the value of your property has to appreciate by at least 7-8% just for you to break even. Imagine if this were true in the stock market. Consider AAPL's current price of 113.28 / 113.29. That means that you can instantly buy AAPL for 113.29 and sell it for 113.28, i.e. a Bid-Ask spread of just a penny - less than 0.01% of your investment. Now imagine a 7% Bid-Ask spread, i.e. 109.32 / 117.25. Now you have to pay 117.25 for a share of AAPL stock, and if you decide to immediately thereafter sell this share, you only get 109.32. Would you touch this investment? Well maybe, but you'd think a lot harder about the underlying valuation. There would have to be substantial benefits to ownership. G) Maintainance / Depreciation. Unless the property under consideration is a plot of land, the structure (e.g. roof) and the things inside (e.g. appliances) will inevitably depreciate. Even if you determine that nothing will need upkeep/replacement before you sell the property, the resale value will reflect the diminished value. H) Risk and Liquidity Premium. I won't dwell on this, but uncertain costs (in contrast to rent) should demand a risk premium. And an illliquid asset (in contrast to a savings account or shares of an index fund) should demand a liquidity premium. Economic downturns often result in simultaneous housing downturns and mass layoffs, and when they occur, consider how this would affect your ability to leave for greener pastures. We saw in 2008-09 how labor mobility suffered because too many people were underwater on their homes, and/or didn't want to sell at a loss. At a minimum, consider this a tie-breaker in favor of renting if you find the costs of renting and ownership to be very close. I've obviously ignored something very important thus far: the potential for price appreciation. If you strip away everything above, that's what remains, and it can more than make up for the costs above. This is speculation, and if you have a strong opinion on the direction of the housing market, there's a much, much, much simpler way of capitalizing on that. Also it comes with the nice little perk of not spending time working with brokers, lawyers, condo associations, and local tax authorities. You can participate in the potential upside by buying a equity REIT fund. It's not only liquid enough to be disposed of in less than a minute, but gives you a super diversified portfolio of holdings as opposed to one type of property in one neighborhood in one city, etc. As an aside, (inflation-adjusted) housing prices appear flat in the long-term. A commonly heard facile argument in favor of buying is "You're building equity when you buy, whereas you're throwing money down the drain when you rent." If you hear this, it's a very strong indication that the person speaking has no idea what they're talking about (sorry but it's true). I hope the above list of costs show that you are "throwing money down the drain" regardless of whether you rent or buy. The question is which decision results in a smaller outflow - and it may very well be buying! If my arrogance hasn't convinced you, consider that if the above argument were valid, one should rationally purchase property at any price. Intuitively, we know that can't be right. The price you pay does matter, even if some bank is willing to lend you 100% of the purchase price on an infinite-term loan. Buying is renting. The difference is you're paying rent to a bank (for lending of money) instead of rent to a landlord (for lending of property). And if you don't have a mortgage, then you are foregoing a large amount of potential investment income. Either way, there are large costs in play. A home is an asset and a liability. Regardless of what decisions the above calculations yield, I believe that in the end, one should buy a home for the same reason he/she buys most things - because it brings happiness. For example, I have a fetish for trapezoids. And my bedroom is shaped like one. Believe me or don't, if it was a rectangle, I'd still be renting. Ultimately, I think a home should be a place to raise your kids, throw parties, paint the walls ridiculous colors, or install an adult moonwalk bounce house in your pleasure playroom hidden behind a camouflaged door only your spouse can find. If you're looking for a good financial investment, you can often do a lot better. |
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This means the value of your property has to appreciate by at least 7-8% just for you to break even. Imagine if this were true in the stock market. Consider AAPL's current price of 113.28 / 113.29. That means that you can instantly buy AAPL for 113.29 and sell it for 113.28, i.e. a Bid-Ask spread of just a penny - less than 0.01% of your investment. Now imagine a 7% Bid-Ask spread, i.e. 109.32 / 117.25. Now you have to pay 117.25 for a share of AAPL stock, and if you decide to immediately thereafter sell this share, you only get 109.32. Would you touch this investment? Well maybe, but you'd think a lot harder about the underlying valuation. There would have to be substantial benefits to ownership. \n\nG) Maintainance / Depreciation. Unless the property under consideration is a plot of land, the structure (e.g. roof) and the things inside (e.g. appliances) will inevitably depreciate. 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If you strip away everything above, that's what remains, and it can more than make up for the costs above. This is speculation, and if you have a strong opinion on the direction of the housing market, there's a much, much, much simpler way of capitalizing on that. Also it comes with the nice little perk of not spending time working with brokers, lawyers, condo associations, and local tax authorities. You can participate in the potential upside by buying a equity REIT fund. 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