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      "body": "現在台灣如果要購買虛擬貨幣必須透過Maicoin或幣託使用銀行轉帳或全家付款。雖然方便但價差極大，一進一出20%～30%跑不掉。頂好名店城有也有一台比特幣販賣機價錢好一點，可是數量有限而且還是算貴。在這裡介紹一個雖然麻煩但可以比較方便入金的方式，而且如果運氣好，入金後轉成比特幣就已經賺了。\n\n在美國流行一種類似運彩的遊戲（在這裡稱Fantasy系列，[ESPN](http://www.espn.com/fantasy/)跟[Yahoo](https://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/)都有類似的），可以在特定運動項目靠買選手組隊來比賽贏錢。現在有一個也是玩Fantasy系列遊戲的叫Crypto Fantasy Sport(申請請用[link](https://www.cryptofantasysports.com/User/Register?AflCode=iLy701%2b7PR2wQR0%2b4%2btaTg%3d%3d))。它有自己的虛擬貨幣[No Limit Coin(NCL2)](https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nolimitcoin/)([website](https://nolimitcoin.org/))。它可以使用Visa/Master或支付寶直接購買，網站上有價格可以知道絕對的金額和數量。信用卡一天一筆，每個禮拜的上限是$500美金。可是如果同時使用支付寶以及信用卡就可以突破這個上限（小弟沒有支付寶所以不知道實際有沒有什麼其它限制，說不定全部用支付寶就好了）。另外如果真的要再多可以跟support申請增加上限。\n\n下面直接介紹全部流程：\n\n申請Crypto Fantasy Sport帳號：[link](https://www.cryptofantasysports.com/User/Register?AflCode=iLy701%2b7PR2wQR0%2b4%2btaTg%3d%3d)\n申請Cryptopia帳號：[link](https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Register?referrer=kenshin520) (現在有可能暫停申請）\n（如果上面兩個都有申請好了再繼續往下看不然浪費時間）\n\n在Crypto Fantasy裡面使用信用卡之前必須先註冊信用卡。需要兩張照片，一張是ID照片(大家可能要用護照），另一張是自己手拿著信用卡並且遮住中間8碼的號碼（必須臉跟信用卡都入鏡）。再來就要等對方審核，我自己大概等了2–3小時就審核通過了。購買時可以選擇Bitcoin，信用卡或支付寶。如果金額超過一個禮拜的上限會出warning。在購買時，左上方會出現現在的價格。購買是coin的數目，它會在換算成美金。\n![NLC.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmXtPY5ZZZnZR7GPEeysyb2ksNgppwCeVFqDrC6eSkHYrU/NLC.jpg)\n在按完PURCHASE後在下拉選單會出現剛剛註冊好的信用卡後四碼。之後就是跑正常的信用卡刷卡流程，請記得用同一張卡。（小弟沒膽試不同的卡）\n![NCL2.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmdjJsPhJbyV25t76yPX1XZBLngaFHpnZdbzsVHooD9i1W/NCL2.jpg)\n\n之後馬上就可以得到coin。（另外申請成功後會送10顆，可是這10顆只能在遊戲裡面玩，不能直接轉出來）\n\n可以直接進My Balance看。\n![NCL3.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmen5CpihE38uhDdZNK2M23tJkpMhpkiaFxXq1YHrLsJBf/NCL3.jpg)\n\n如果不想玩遊戲，可以直接用WITHDRAW轉出。官網說轉出最多可能會需要24小時，各人經驗是3–4個小時可以收到。我都是直接轉到我Cryptopia的Deposite address。\n\n要轉到Cryptopia只要到自己Cryptopia帳號的Balance(直接點選左上的Bitcoin symbol)然後搜尋裡打”nlc”就可以找到了。然後點右邊綠色的箭頭。\n![NCL4.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmQkc2jDAXkSk8rTRAWpsfucmzUbURHCxpHxvQn2G8f5zR/NCL4.jpg)\n\n在NoLimitCoin複製自己的Deposit Address。\n![NCL5.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmQxApWxjQYWLo48DhRUNengaAFttFb7bCqZP7eXeFkuUE/NCL5.jpg)\n\n回到Crypto Fantasy的Balance畫面點選下面的WITHDRAW然後將地址填入Wallet address的地方，然後再填入要提領的數目（送的10顆是不能直接提領的）。這個轉帳是完全不需要手續費的，填多少在Crypotia就會拿到多少，很讚吧。\n\n![NCL6.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmcNFpVasu4fZPi5p5C9dAafVVCWtPH52TarpUfjjJBH16/NCL6.jpg)\n\n另外下面有link可以教如何建立自己的wallet。如果要自己保留coin的話可以用staking wallet，可以得到一年4%的報酬（以虛擬貨幣來說是少到不行），相關資訊：[link](https://nolimitcoin.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001587631-NLC2-Wallet-Staking-Tutorial)。\n\nWithdraw完成之後可以在Balance的最下面點選STATEMENT來查看紀錄。在這裡看不到交易序號，交易序號會在withdraw notice的email裡面。剛轉出時只會看到“NoLimit Coin Withdraw Request is Processed“然後就什麼都沒有，要等到它們實際送出交易才會出現Deposit確認的紀錄，通常在發現有這筆的時候Cryptopia就已經入帳而且confirmed了。\n![NCL7.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmXrLdcydq7RxJQ6pSHXnHBpnj9UAA1syuyqqfygLgVtgW/NCL7.jpg)\n\n__*再來就是比較麻煩而且風險比較大的部分*__\n\n*當coin到Cryptopia之後就可以換成BTC或其它coin再換成看是要轉出去或買其它只有Cryptopia有的coin。Cryptopia的卻有些蠻有潛力或爆發力的coin。*\n\n*在這裡就會有兩層的匯率風險。第一是換成通用貨幣（通常是BTC）會有第一次的匯率風險，小弟第一次是等到coin到Cryptopia的時候NLC2就漲了30%所以直接轉到，第二次就沒這麼幸運至少沒虧啦。第二是要買其它的幣是不是正好在好的價格就不知道了，非常有可能全都漲上去了。可是大部分的人可能會想趕快把幣轉出Cryptopia這種小交易所，如果是換成BTC，轉出去的手續費高又慢（因為交易量的問題，到目前為止2018–01–10LTC的直接的交易是暫停的)，所以可能會希望再換成別的幣再轉出去，這就回到二次換匯的問題了。*\n\n總結：\nCrypto Fantasy Sports可以有限而且簡單的方式使用FIAT購買虛擬貨幣。在使用Cryptopia交易所將購買的NLC2換成自己要的幣。中間過程比較繁瑣已經有匯率時間差的問題。但相較於Maicoin或幣託的高手續費是一個可以考量的管道。因為每個禮拜有上限，可以拿來做為一個定期定額入金的手段。另外如果以前有在玩類似Fantasy這種遊戲的玩家這是一個兩全其美的方式。",
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