VOTING POWER100.00%
DOWNVOTE POWER100.00%
RESOURCE CREDITS100.00%
REPUTATION PROGRESS15.72%
Net Worth
0.474USD
STEEM
0.000STEEM
SBD
0.891SBD
Effective Power
5.001SP
├── Own SP
0.632SP
└── Incoming DelegationsDeleg
+4.369SP
Detailed Balance
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| balance | 0.000STEEM | STEEM |
| market_balance | 0.000STEEM | STEEM |
| savings_balance | 0.000STEEM | STEEM |
| reward_steem_balance | 0.000STEEM | STEEM |
| STEEM POWER | ||
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| Delegated Out | 0.000SP | SP |
| Delegation In | 4.369SP | SP |
| Effective Power | 5.001SP | SP |
| Reward SP (pending) | 0.253SP | SP |
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| sbd_conversions | 0.000SBD | SBD |
| sbd_market_balance | 0.000SBD | SBD |
| savings_sbd_balance | 0.000SBD | SBD |
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| id | 379473 |
| rank | 808,932 |
| reputation | 6240833792 |
| created | 2017-09-22T20:09:30 |
| recovery_account | steem |
| proxy | None |
| post_count | 3 |
| comment_count | 0 |
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| last_post | 2018-02-22T21:53:21 |
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| delegated_vesting_shares | 0.000000 VESTS |
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| reward_vesting_balance | 517.011661 VESTS |
| vesting_balance | 0.000 STEEM |
| vesting_withdraw_rate | 0.000000 VESTS |
| next_vesting_withdrawal | 1969-12-31T23:59:59 |
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| to_withdraw | 0 |
| withdraw_routes | 0 |
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| last_account_recovery | 1970-01-01T00:00:00 |
| reset_account | null |
| last_owner_update | 1970-01-01T00:00:00 |
| last_account_update | 2017-09-22T20:15:54 |
| mined | No |
| sbd_seconds | 0 |
| sbd_last_interest_payment | 1970-01-01T00:00:00 |
| savings_sbd_last_interest_payment | 1970-01-01T00:00:00 |
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To Date
2026/05/18 03:07:00
2026/05/18 03:07:00
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | lsanger |
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2026/05/12 15:25:33
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | lsanger |
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2026/04/26 02:23:30
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | lsanger |
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2026/01/23 15:27:27
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | lsanger |
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2024/12/17 10:41:27
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | lsanger |
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2023/11/14 02:23:42
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | lsanger |
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2023/09/22 01:11:24
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | lsanger |
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2022/11/03 14:34:21
| delegator | steem |
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2022/01/17 17:51:36
| delegator | steem |
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2021/06/14 03:23:57
| delegator | steem |
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2020/12/11 13:39:36
| delegator | steem |
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2020/12/06 07:15:57
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | lsanger |
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2020/12/05 17:17:33
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | lsanger |
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2020/11/02 20:52:39
| delegator | steem |
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2020/05/09 08:16:09
| delegator | steem |
| delegatee | lsanger |
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2020/05/08 12:15:06
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2020/04/23 07:49:18
| delegator | steem |
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2019/09/22 21:21:54
| parent author | lsanger |
| parent permlink | social-media-is-getting-more-political-and-screwing-up-our-relationships |
| author | steemitboard |
| permlink | steemitboard-notify-lsanger-20190922t212153000z |
| title | |
| body | Congratulations @lsanger! You received a personal award! <table><tr><td>https://steemitimages.com/70x70/http://steemitboard.com/@lsanger/birthday2.png</td><td>Happy Birthday! - You are on the Steem blockchain for 2 years!</td></tr></table> <sub>_You can view [your badges on your Steem Board](https://steemitboard.com/@lsanger) and compare to others on the [Steem Ranking](https://steemitboard.com/ranking/index.php?name=lsanger)_</sub> **Do not miss the last post from @steemitboard:** <table><tr><td><a href="https://steemit.com/steemfest/@steemitboard/steemitboard-supports-the-steemfest-travel-reimbursement-fund"><img src="https://steemitimages.com/64x128/https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmXDHs9xfx8ZZ3DESFUqHRUQAcQT5kUWobArsRoJg2Yz1F/image.png"></a></td><td><a href="https://steemit.com/steemfest/@steemitboard/steemitboard-supports-the-steemfest-travel-reimbursement-fund">SteemitBoard supports the SteemFest⁴ Travel Reimbursement Fund.</a></td></tr></table> ###### [Vote for @Steemitboard as a witness](https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/account-witness-vote?witness=steemitboard&approve=1) to get one more award and increased upvotes! |
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| body | ### On social media, we are at each others’ throats more than ever. Why? Online discussions seem to be tenser than I can ever remember them being, and I’ve organized and participated in them for about 25 years. Since things have been getting more and more heated in recent years, I have been thinking more and more about *why* they have. The usual reasons are — let’s face it — inadequate. > **Well, it’s Trump!** > *No, it’s that biased liberal media!* > **No, it’s the stupid conservatives, believing all that fake news!** > *No, it’s the loony, liberty-hating left going off the deep end!* > **No, it’s the right, becoming more fascist by the day!** > ***But it’s really the Russians! This is all according to their plan!*** I’m just sitting back and asking myself, “What the hell is going on?” People haven’t changed *that* much. Most of my Facebook friends are liberal, but I know a lot of libertarians and conservatives. Almost everyone seems upset about where the country is going, for different reasons, of course — but individually, they haven’t changed that much. One on one, I can have a friendly discussion with most people I disagree with. But when we get into groups online, well, things are looking *very* different. These politically-charged group disagreements are interfering with our personal relationships. One of my best friends from high school, whose political views have become more radical in recent years, unfriended me for no reason other than my political views. I’ve unfriended acquaintances I’ve worked with in the past because they were unable to reply to me about politics without constant insults. One very nice woman, who is much more moderate than others we both know, quite viciously attacked me when I expressed an opinion unpopular in her group. She’d never been so vicious before; it was quite shocking to me. Since she’s just an acquaintance, I just decided to do us both a favor and unfriend her. By now, this sort of thing is sad old news. You probably have similar stories. For a while, I thought the problem was basically just “familiarity breeds contempt”: the more we see each others’ contrary political views splayed online, the angrier we become. But there’s more to it than that, I suspect. --- We observe others making political statements online, and we think: “I wonder if this is having some effect.” Upvotes and likes sure look like evidence that a message has had an effect. And if it was a political message, well then, that means your views have been advanced — or attacked. The fight is on! We’ve been told over and over in the last decade or so, and especially in the last year, that online commentary, and social media in particular, has an outsize political effect. Obama’s social media chops were praised for helping to elect him. We’re told that we get most of our news (or links to news) via Facebook. Russians were supposed to have help elected Trump through the — make no bones about it — awesome influence of Facebook and Twitter. YouTube political commentary is increasingly influential, even if it is sometimes deeply offensive. Trump’s tweets are an endless source of controversy and publicity. With all the allegedly bad influences online, the Establishment governments and corporations now seem increasingly agreed that we must clamp down on “extreme” views, free speech be damned. So when you’re merely batting out a quick message on Facebook or Twitter, you’re told, you’re participating in a system with an awesome amount of power. *This* is now where where public opinion is made. You might not be thinking about this as you write. But you have a sense that you’re playing to a potentially huge audience, especially if something you’ve written is called out or goes viral. Consider any online comment that, twenty years ago, would have struck everyone as unimportant, self-indulgent political commentary. Today, the same words seem significant — praiseworthy or deplorable — and demand a response. --- Many of us would prefer our social media feeds to be politics-free. But it doesn’t seem to be moving in that direction, does it? Even relatively apolitical people feel moved to weigh in today; the pleasant, vanilla personalities of your acquaintance startle you with opinions. *She has an opinion?* Sometimes forthrightly expressed! *What the hell?* Previously moderate writers, the voices of reason, sound increasingly ideological. *Gee, that doesn’t sound like him.* And your old friends who were always lightheartedly talking about politics are on the ramparts with wild-eyed looks, lobbing word grenades. *Dude! Maybe calm down a little?* Facebook began as a way for college students to socialize and then became, sadly, the modern replacement for much social interaction. But in the last five years or so, it has evolved into a zone of political warfare. Social media is, increasingly, how we socialize; but social media looks, increasingly, politically consequential; therefore, our socializing occurs in a heavy stew of politics. Like it or not. And that is not good for our relationships. The political nature of social media is seriously getting in the way of how we socialize. This is sad. I hope this is a point that everyone can agree with, especially those of us who really value our relationships quite independently of our political tribes. Don’t misunderstand. I’m not complaining about politics on social media; that would be hypocritical of me. Perhaps social media even empowers us in new ways. But at present, it seems to be doing so at the cost of our personal relationships. Social media is changing how we socialize, making it more political. That’s not an improvement. --- I have two practical requests, of the social media giants and then of everyone. First, I’d like to ask Facebook, Twitter, and other social media giants, please create a setting that enables users to do three things: 1. Mark content (their own or somebody else’s) as political. This could be done automatically, to a certain extent. 2. Check an option saying, “Don’t show me anything political.” (Or, if politics are getting in the way of a friendship: “Don’t show me anything political from this person.”) 3. Enable us to view a feed that is entirely politics-free. Add-on apps won’t do the job effectively. (I’ve tried them.) Facebook, Twitter, etc., you have to do it. I have one more request, and that is of everyone. Do you agree that this is a problem? Maybe it’s not (or not *just*) the Russians who are dividing us; maybe it’s very media that are Facebook and Twitter. If you agree that we’re becoming divided and hostile because our friendly, social discourse overlaps too much with our nasty, political discourse, then let’s start talking about it and working on solutions. I hope there’s a solution. |
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| body | August 22, 2017 I got back today from a four-day trip to Tennessee to watch the eclipse. We were so happy that no rain was forecast, but we worried about the "partly cloudy" forecast. The forecast was exactly right. As the eclipse was going on, we saw only about half of it. Fifteen minutes before totality, a ginormous cloud sidled up and decided to cover it. In a panic, we decided to try to dash to the west, where it was still perfectly clear. When it was definitely totality, we got out of the car, still under a cloud. Damn! But we saw stars, in practically all directions. Just not...up, where the sun and moon were. The trip down to Nashville was uneventful and even pleasant. The boys, who had made pinhole cameras, were very excited, and Rita seemed to be enjoying herself. The trip back was something else. We left at 2:45 p.m. or so, travelling north, when approximately two million other people from the Great Lakes states, Pennsylvania, and other places were going home too. At first I thought we had dodged a bullet, because although it was fairly heavy traffic immediately north of Nashville, there were several miles of pretty easy going. Then we got into the longest traffic jam I've ever been in—literally hundreds of miles long. The 200-mile trip we took yesterday was significantly longer because we kept exiting the highway for faster routes on country roads. Faster, sure, but more hair-raising, as the roads were winding, narrow, with no shoulder, and frequently scary-looking ditches. The only mercy was that there was almost no traffic traveling in the opposite direction. With all our "fast" detours, still probably beat the people who stuck to the interstate, but—to make a long story short—we rolled into a hotel, which we had "wisely" reserved last week, north of Louisville. Boy, did I get an earful from someone who didn't think the last 15% of totality was worth all that. She wasn't impressed by my very solid arguments that I wasn't responsible for the weather and that, if we *had* seen the sun, she probably wouldn't be so angry. Once I started saying "sorry" a lot she seemed to be satisfied. To make a long story short, my family rolled into the hotel after a 9.5-hour trip. I'm so grateful we didn't get into an accident. I've never been in anything like that before. It was a very weird situation. I thought, sure, maybe we'll add a few hours to our time, but there aren't *that* many science lovers out there, right? People sure proved my cynicism wrong. Though they might be smarter (and more careful drivers, which was another mercy) than the average tourist, the eclipse attendees, just like me, weren't counting on that many people being out. And since most of those people hadn't booked hotels at reasonable distances (given the traffic) from the path of totality, they stuck to the road. For hour after hour after hour... It was totally an educational experience for all. For one thing, my boys had never stayed up until 1 a.m. before. That was an exciting new experience too! ============= The most depressing thing about the trip, and the thing that has stuck with me today, is not our failure to see the sun go behind the moon for two minutes, nor the hellish trip back, but just how complete the uniformity of American commerce has become. The same goddamn chain stores everywhere throughout Ohio, Kentucky, and Tennessee, looking quite similar to what interstates and suburbs look like all around the whole goddamn country. People were complaining about this when I was a kid. God, it's gotten worse—a lot worse. No personality. No culture. No attempt at beautification beyond cleanliness and the same dull modern styles. The chain restaurants, which on the road are the least risky and most predictable, are, for all their "variety," always the same variety. It occurred to me that this is just a reflection of a broader collectivization that Americans, supposedly an individualistic people, seem comfortable with. Not only do we shop at Walmarts everywhere and eat at McDonald's everywhere, we buy our insurance from the same small set of enormous insurance companies, bank with the same small set of goliath banks, buy our tech from the same few vendors, use the same email, use the same search engine, etc., etc. We live in cities, suburbs, and towns that look mostly the same, in houses that vary in just the same ways depending on the type of neighborhood and age, drive the same kinds of cars, eat the same brands of food, watch the same badly produced television and ridiculous movies, go to the same kind of crappy schools and biased universities, and on and on. We're cogs in a machine, just like the hippies said fifty years ago. The machine grinds on, becoming more efficient and productive and richer—and more uniformly engineered. There are options. There are huge numbers of options. You can live in a funky different sort of town, drive a weird foreign import, buy funky food in what I am amused to call the "liberal food" section of your supermarket or at Whole Foods or just locally, have bespoke stuff made, etc. All this takes time and, more importantly, money. Most people can't afford all that character and individualism. We shop at Walmart not because we particularly like it, but because it's cheap and easy. Some liberal friend will be reading this, sensing a teachable moment, and prepare to write about how they avoid GMOs and buy local, etc. Oh, please spare me. I've heard/read it all before. I'm not talking about my individual habits or yours. I'm talking about the country and what I view as a problem. And, sorry, but if you're shopping at Whole Foods, bragging about how you drive a hybrid, working as a lawyer for a nonprofit, unlike all those rubes out there, you're just as much of a goddamn conformist as the rest; you're just conforming to a smaller, richer, more elite group that fantasizes that it's better than other people. Don't suppose this is a problem about capitalism, or multinationals, or globalism. It isn't. There was far, far more dreary sameness in socialist countries. We Americans, once the world center of individualism, have descended into a dreary sameness—more varieties of dreary sameness, perhaps, so there's that—for precisely the same reasons that the socialists did. It's collectivism. Notice that I do not say that *people* are the same. While there are of course similarities, I can never avoid the conclusion that all those people, even the dullest Walmart shopper or the boringest corporate drone, are each individuals, each possessed of a dignity and uniqueness and point of view I am totally incapable of dismissing as I dismiss the corporations, products, and institutions that shape so much of their lives. =============== It bothers me that I don't take the time to beautify my home in a certain way. Other people do, and I admire them for that. I'd like to take the time to landscape things beautifully, pick out better plants, add art here and there, maybe even build a trail. Most people don't do any of this in more than a perfunctory way. I don't have art (other than the boys' art) because I don't like doing things in half-measures. Good art and design takes time and money. A lot of what bothers me about the sameness of the American landscape and culture is the lack of anything remotely resembling an individual aesthetic. We leave it to builders to build our houses, and they give us what they think we expect. A lot of seem to seek out sameness in our surroundings, if our suburbs are any indication. We spend no time cultivating or paying for the sort of public art that *most* people would actually enjoy. Instead, we leave it to our elected officials, who leave it to the experts, who clearly don't give a flying flip about what the public actually enjoys. We each have our specialization. Mine is making websites, so I spend most of my time on that. I put time in on a few other things that I think are important, especially homeschooling and family, but also fiddle and a few other things. How does that leave time for cultivating an individual aesthetic? In this regard, except for the sufficiently idle and rich, and the people who actually specialize in art and design, we're all in precisely the same boat. Of course, if you're a snooty professional, or a retiree, or whatever, you might make some more efforts in this regard (and it helps that you have the money to pay for it, now doesn't it?). =============== How do I imagine it was before modern life began making our lives so uniform and dull? Well, of course I don't think people in, say, the 19th century actually had more exciting or varied lives than we do. Of course they didn't. Surely we have far more wealth and variety than they ever did. I'm just disappointed how we spend this wealth. There are no sincerely tremendous public works anymore—no incredible monuments to liberty, no stunning cathedrals that require over a century to build. I imagine that inns and restaurants had surprises on the menu, local specials, things you could find out about, because the decisions were made locally, not by some asshole in an office in New York City. Why do we give all our money to these chains? Why do we build houses that are all the same? Why don't we beautify our lives? I know folks will say "it's economics, of course, silly." Yes, of course there's more variety and lower prices at Home Depot than at the local hardware store that is going to go out of business in a couple of years, if it didn't 20 years ago. That's why. We specialize, and when we gather in certain kinds of giant collectives, we can do things (in certain ways) much better than we can individually or in smaller groups. Just look at Wikipedia. I don't have any easy answers. Sometimes I think that, maybe, we should have bought a smaller house, and made it really, really awesomely decked out with all the money I saved. Maybe I should just start spending more money at local fruit stands, and always avoiding the chain restaurants whenever I can, etc. Of course I don't have to use Chrome, Google Search, Gmail, Facebook, Apple products, etc., and everything else where so many decisions are made for me. I've already moved to Firefox and DuckDuckGo, and will soon be forwarding my Gmail to some other service. I don't watch broadcast or cable TV at all. We watched some of that while on the trip. So much of it is absolutely intolerable bullshit. We're not missing it in the slightest. We're going to movies less and less. I doubt they've changed for the worse recently; mostly, I have changed. I don't know. I just think that the conformist tendency in most of us leads us, due to the economies of scale, to embrace institutions that make our lives uniform, bland, and boring. I like economies of scale, really I do. I like that Google is so big and competent that they can make Gmail both free and awesome. I get that, really. I just can't support a giant collective, like that, that has discovered its power and decides to abuse it. Then I back out. Similarly, I hate broadcast TV with its insipid commercials and unintelligent writing and bad morals and bad politics. There are things I wish I had easier access to, perhaps, but I don't miss them considering the dreck that would be flooding the house along with it. The problem is that the people who take control of the levers of power when there are these economies of scale want things made uniform, because they're easier to manage and less risky. And because kids grow up in that sort of sameness and then get corporate jobs that require bland opinions and bland personalities, they find nothing particularly wrong with chain stores. Sure they're boring, but they've got what you want. Sure your sports team is just like every other one, but they're your team, so they're the one you root for. Americans want a good deal. We get a good deal from the truly massive economies of scale that 300 million pretty-rich people, interlocked in one giant market, can create. We also get a truly oppressive sameness and neither taste for nor ability to produce the sort of rich aesthetic life, even if it's just folk music and song we produce ourselves, that would make all this wealth seem actually worthwhile. The tragedy is that I think even the dullest corporate drone doesn't *really* like Walmart and McDonald's and public schools and stupid sitcoms all the other mostly mediocre, and certainly uninspiring, stuff that depressingly shape so many American lives. Nobody does. =============== Should we spend more time creating, ourselves, and strive to become a society of artists and intellectuals? Lots of ordinary people have some intellectual and creative outlets or other. That doesn't solve the problem. The problem seems to be baked into the very notion of prosperity. Prosperity is very complicated. It requires so many jobs, and thus such specialization, that there's no way for us to research and appreciate the rich tapestry of life, even in one flavor of it. We rely on others to design our houses, line up our entertainment, feed to us quickly while we're off taking the kids to lessons, etc. This all goes by quickly and we can't appreciate it. If we took the time to appreciate any one thing, we'd be missing so much else, and we'd probably lose the modern balance. If you take two hours every day to make, eat, and clean up a real meal from scratch, you're talking about a hobby. And there are so many things to do. Why not leave it to Marie Callender or Prego or McDonald's, so you can catch your favorite show? This sounds all depressing to me, and I don't know what the answer is (as I said), but I'm still not convinced that massive economies of scale in a market economy like ours *must* be subject to all the soul-killing uniformity we've seen around us for generations. |
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"body": "August 22, 2017\n\nI got back today from a four-day trip to Tennessee to watch the eclipse. We were so happy that no rain was forecast, but we worried about the \"partly cloudy\" forecast. The forecast was exactly right. As the eclipse was going on, we saw only about half of it. Fifteen minutes before totality, a ginormous cloud sidled up and decided to cover it. In a panic, we decided to try to dash to the west, where it was still perfectly clear. When it was definitely totality, we got out of the car, still under a cloud. Damn! But we saw stars, in practically all directions. Just not...up, where the sun and moon were.\n\nThe trip down to Nashville was uneventful and even pleasant. The boys, who had made pinhole cameras, were very excited, and Rita seemed to be enjoying herself. The trip back was something else. We left at 2:45 p.m. or so, travelling north, when approximately two million other people from the Great Lakes states, Pennsylvania, and other places were going home too. At first I thought we had dodged a bullet, because although it was fairly heavy traffic immediately north of Nashville, there were several miles of pretty easy going.\n\nThen we got into the longest traffic jam I've ever been in—literally hundreds of miles long. The 200-mile trip we took yesterday was significantly longer because we kept exiting the highway for faster routes on country roads. Faster, sure, but more hair-raising, as the roads were winding, narrow, with no shoulder, and frequently scary-looking ditches. The only mercy was that there was almost no traffic traveling in the opposite direction. With all our \"fast\" detours, still probably beat the people who stuck to the interstate, but—to make a long story short—we rolled into a hotel, which we had \"wisely\" reserved last week, north of Louisville.\n\nBoy, did I get an earful from someone who didn't think the last 15% of totality was worth all that. She wasn't impressed by my very solid arguments that I wasn't responsible for the weather and that, if we *had* seen the sun, she probably wouldn't be so angry. Once I started saying \"sorry\" a lot she seemed to be satisfied.\n\nTo make a long story short, my family rolled into the hotel after a 9.5-hour trip. I'm so grateful we didn't get into an accident.\n\nI've never been in anything like that before. It was a very weird situation. I thought, sure, maybe we'll add a few hours to our time, but there aren't *that* many science lovers out there, right? People sure proved my cynicism wrong. Though they might be smarter (and more careful drivers, which was another mercy) than the average tourist, the eclipse attendees, just like me, weren't counting on that many people being out. And since most of those people hadn't booked hotels at reasonable distances (given the traffic) from the path of totality, they stuck to the road. For hour after hour after hour...\n\nIt was totally an educational experience for all. For one thing, my boys had never stayed up until 1 a.m. before. That was an exciting new experience too!\n\n=============\n\nThe most depressing thing about the trip, and the thing that has stuck with me today, is not our failure to see the sun go behind the moon for two minutes, nor the hellish trip back, but just how complete the uniformity of American commerce has become. The same goddamn chain stores everywhere throughout Ohio, Kentucky, and Tennessee, looking quite similar to what interstates and suburbs look like all around the whole goddamn country. People were complaining about this when I was a kid. God, it's gotten worse—a lot worse.\n\nNo personality. No culture. No attempt at beautification beyond cleanliness and the same dull modern styles. The chain restaurants, which on the road are the least risky and most predictable, are, for all their \"variety,\" always the same variety.\n\nIt occurred to me that this is just a reflection of a broader collectivization that Americans, supposedly an individualistic people, seem comfortable with. Not only do we shop at Walmarts everywhere and eat at McDonald's everywhere, we buy our insurance from the same small set of enormous insurance companies, bank with the same small set of goliath banks, buy our tech from the same few vendors, use the same email, use the same search engine, etc., etc.\n\nWe live in cities, suburbs, and towns that look mostly the same, in houses that vary in just the same ways depending on the type of neighborhood and age, drive the same kinds of cars, eat the same brands of food, watch the same badly produced television and ridiculous movies, go to the same kind of crappy schools and biased universities, and on and on.\n\nWe're cogs in a machine, just like the hippies said fifty years ago. The machine grinds on, becoming more efficient and productive and richer—and more uniformly engineered.\n\nThere are options. There are huge numbers of options. You can live in a funky different sort of town, drive a weird foreign import, buy funky food in what I am amused to call the \"liberal food\" section of your supermarket or at Whole Foods or just locally, have bespoke stuff made, etc. All this takes time and, more importantly, money. Most people can't afford all that character and individualism. We shop at Walmart not because we particularly like it, but because it's cheap and easy.\n\nSome liberal friend will be reading this, sensing a teachable moment, and prepare to write about how they avoid GMOs and buy local, etc. Oh, please spare me. I've heard/read it all before. I'm not talking about my individual habits or yours. I'm talking about the country and what I view as a problem. And, sorry, but if you're shopping at Whole Foods, bragging about how you drive a hybrid, working as a lawyer for a nonprofit, unlike all those rubes out there, you're just as much of a goddamn conformist as the rest; you're just conforming to a smaller, richer, more elite group that fantasizes that it's better than other people.\n\nDon't suppose this is a problem about capitalism, or multinationals, or globalism. It isn't. There was far, far more dreary sameness in socialist countries. We Americans, once the world center of individualism, have descended into a dreary sameness—more varieties of dreary sameness, perhaps, so there's that—for precisely the same reasons that the socialists did. It's collectivism.\n\nNotice that I do not say that *people* are the same. While there are of course similarities, I can never avoid the conclusion that all those people, even the dullest Walmart shopper or the boringest corporate drone, are each individuals, each possessed of a dignity and uniqueness and point of view I am totally incapable of dismissing as I dismiss the corporations, products, and institutions that shape so much of their lives.\n\n===============\n\nIt bothers me that I don't take the time to beautify my home in a certain way. Other people do, and I admire them for that. I'd like to take the time to landscape things beautifully, pick out better plants, add art here and there, maybe even build a trail. Most people don't do any of this in more than a perfunctory way. I don't have art (other than the boys' art) because I don't like doing things in half-measures. Good art and design takes time and money.\n\nA lot of what bothers me about the sameness of the American landscape and culture is the lack of anything remotely resembling an individual aesthetic. We leave it to builders to build our houses, and they give us what they think we expect. A lot of seem to seek out sameness in our surroundings, if our suburbs are any indication.\n\nWe spend no time cultivating or paying for the sort of public art that *most* people would actually enjoy. Instead, we leave it to our elected officials, who leave it to the experts, who clearly don't give a flying flip about what the public actually enjoys.\n\nWe each have our specialization. Mine is making websites, so I spend most of my time on that. I put time in on a few other things that I think are important, especially homeschooling and family, but also fiddle and a few other things. How does that leave time for cultivating an individual aesthetic?\n\nIn this regard, except for the sufficiently idle and rich, and the people who actually specialize in art and design, we're all in precisely the same boat. Of course, if you're a snooty professional, or a retiree, or whatever, you might make some more efforts in this regard (and it helps that you have the money to pay for it, now doesn't it?).\n\n===============\n\nHow do I imagine it was before modern life began making our lives so uniform and dull?\n\nWell, of course I don't think people in, say, the 19th century actually had more exciting or varied lives than we do. Of course they didn't. Surely we have far more wealth and variety than they ever did.\n\nI'm just disappointed how we spend this wealth.\n\nThere are no sincerely tremendous public works anymore—no incredible monuments to liberty, no stunning cathedrals that require over a century to build. I imagine that inns and restaurants had surprises on the menu, local specials, things you could find out about, because the decisions were made locally, not by some asshole in an office in New York City.\n\nWhy do we give all our money to these chains? Why do we build houses that are all the same? Why don't we beautify our lives?\n\nI know folks will say \"it's economics, of course, silly.\" Yes, of course there's more variety and lower prices at Home Depot than at the local hardware store that is going to go out of business in a couple of years, if it didn't 20 years ago. That's why.\n\nWe specialize, and when we gather in certain kinds of giant collectives, we can do things (in certain ways) much better than we can individually or in smaller groups. Just look at Wikipedia.\n\nI don't have any easy answers.\n\nSometimes I think that, maybe, we should have bought a smaller house, and made it really, really awesomely decked out with all the money I saved. Maybe I should just start spending more money at local fruit stands, and always avoiding the chain restaurants whenever I can, etc.\n\nOf course I don't have to use Chrome, Google Search, Gmail, Facebook, Apple products, etc., and everything else where so many decisions are made for me. I've already moved to Firefox and DuckDuckGo, and will soon be forwarding my Gmail to some other service.\n\nI don't watch broadcast or cable TV at all. We watched some of that while on the trip. So much of it is absolutely intolerable bullshit. We're not missing it in the slightest. We're going to movies less and less. I doubt they've changed for the worse recently; mostly, I have changed.\n\nI don't know. I just think that the conformist tendency in most of us leads us, due to the economies of scale, to embrace institutions that make our lives uniform, bland, and boring.\n\nI like economies of scale, really I do. I like that Google is so big and competent that they can make Gmail both free and awesome. I get that, really. I just can't support a giant collective, like that, that has discovered its power and decides to abuse it. Then I back out.\n\nSimilarly, I hate broadcast TV with its insipid commercials and unintelligent writing and bad morals and bad politics. There are things I wish I had easier access to, perhaps, but I don't miss them considering the dreck that would be flooding the house along with it.\n\nThe problem is that the people who take control of the levers of power when there are these economies of scale want things made uniform, because they're easier to manage and less risky. And because kids grow up in that sort of sameness and then get corporate jobs that require bland opinions and bland personalities, they find nothing particularly wrong with chain stores. Sure they're boring, but they've got what you want. Sure your sports team is just like every other one, but they're your team, so they're the one you root for.\n\nAmericans want a good deal. We get a good deal from the truly massive economies of scale that 300 million pretty-rich people, interlocked in one giant market, can create. We also get a truly oppressive sameness and neither taste for nor ability to produce the sort of rich aesthetic life, even if it's just folk music and song we produce ourselves, that would make all this wealth seem actually worthwhile.\n\nThe tragedy is that I think even the dullest corporate drone doesn't *really* like Walmart and McDonald's and public schools and stupid sitcoms all the other mostly mediocre, and certainly uninspiring, stuff that depressingly shape so many American lives. Nobody does.\n\n===============\n\nShould we spend more time creating, ourselves, and strive to become a society of artists and intellectuals?\n\nLots of ordinary people have some intellectual and creative outlets or other. That doesn't solve the problem.\n\nThe problem seems to be baked into the very notion of prosperity. Prosperity is very complicated. It requires so many jobs, and thus such specialization, that there's no way for us to research and appreciate the rich tapestry of life, even in one flavor of it. We rely on others to design our houses, line up our entertainment, feed to us quickly while we're off taking the kids to lessons, etc. This all goes by quickly and we can't appreciate it. If we took the time to appreciate any one thing, we'd be missing so much else, and we'd probably lose the modern balance. If you take two hours every day to make, eat, and clean up a real meal from scratch, you're talking about a hobby. And there are so many things to do. Why not leave it to Marie Callender or Prego or McDonald's, so you can catch your favorite show?\n\nThis sounds all depressing to me, and I don't know what the answer is (as I said), but I'm still not convinced that massive economies of scale in a market economy like ours *must* be subject to all the soul-killing uniformity we've seen around us for generations.",
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