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      "body": "It is because you all focus so intently on everything sexual, it is observable. People these days even make their identity on the basis of there sexual behaviour. This is all due postmodernist influence. Porn is part of postmodern culture. Feminism is built on postmodern culture. That is why you now see prominent feminists like camille paglia, janice fiamengo, cassie jaye,  christina hoffsummers and even laci green rejecting it. It is because feminism is taking away sexual liberation from women and promoting same sex relationships, instead of promoting freedom of choice. These feminists see the danger in that ideology. Abortion is not an issue here because in this country any woman can get an abortion if needed. Western culture is much bigger than what happens in usa, but it is still an important part. The ideas of freedom and liberty that established usa are worth preserving. It is what freed the slaves.",
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      "body": "Well, not entirely.\n\nFor example to UK NHS provides free healthcare to anyone who needs it in the UK.  In theory, you need to be registered and entitled, in practice no one is turned away.\n\nIn Egypt, basic foodstuffs like rice, tea, flour etc are subsidised by the government and you can buy them very, very cheaply, just by turning up and showing an ID card which is rarely checked.\n\nIn both those cases although citizenship might be a presumed requirement for assistance, mere presence and need is in practice sufficient.\n\nThw whole concept of  citizenship is becoming obsolete in the modern age of migration and globalisation.  Any UBI would have to be implimented globally for it to have any meaning.",
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      "body": "Marriage is NOT a state institution hecate.  That's a public school myth along with many other such indoctrinations.  It is primarily a religious and cultural institution which has been shown to be important for the purpose of raising kids.  The state only got involved with \"licensing\" marriage to allow for inter-racial marriage which is reportedly biblically prohibited and was not legal for many decades.  Look it up.  You have a right to marry with no \"license\".  It is not a state-granted privilege despite propaganda.  \n\nIn any divorce, (which should have legitimate grounds like adultery, addiction, or abuse), the state's/church's only legitimate role is to PROTECT individual rights and children's relationships with their parents at all cost, NOT to destroy them and turn it into a child trafficking INDUSTRY for profit as is the situation today.  If an immature idiotic parent just decides they're not having sufficient  \"fun\" anymore and wants to make decisions according to their hormones and 'feelings' and go party with new sex partners (a very common and destructive theme for 'mothers' around age 30-37 as their biological clocks are winding down), she should not then be granted control of the children and have her extremely destructive and immoral behavior further REWARDED with funds extorted from the responsible parent opposing it all.  So-called 'no-fault' divorce is a cancer upon the family, children, and society and it's all being done BY DESIGN.  Sure, you should be free to have the relationships you want AND suffer all accompanying  consequences at your OWN expense.  I agree that no one should get married under today's diabolical, pro-destruction, pro-theft, anti-family, anti-child system which punishes good and rewards evil.",
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