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      "body": "1. Oh, I don't think any politician would embrace my idea. For one thing, it's an idea that takes power away from politicians. \n2. You're right about an overnight transition from nothing but coercive States to zero coercive States - it would no doubt involve a lot of turmoil, some of it violent. The answer is to build non-coercive, voluntary mechanisms and services that operate in parallel, then let them completely supplant the violent political models worldwide. \n3. Since you asked, I think H. Clinton should be in prison as a war criminal, whereas Trump hasn't had the opportunity to be one - yet. \n4. I voted libertarian once when I was about 20. (I put that down to youthful naivety.) In the nearly 40 years since then I am proud to say I have never voted for any coercer in any political election. Politics (including Democracy) is just power from the barrel of a gun. In the US the Red Team and Blue Team are both loaded with war criminals and corruption. But I know most people would give their personal endorsement to either Hitler or Mao if those were the two names on a ticket. That's how evil gets power  - it says it's the lesser of two choices and then people line up to endorse it.",
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      "body": "Happy to see you 'now' describe your writing of the racist American male and Female foreigner as fictitious. When you wrote \"Again, dozens or even hundreds of people can corroborate the facts relating to both Norman and Khalila.\" I thought you were telling the truth about actual people. Thanks for the clarification.\nWhile I don't disagree there is much wrong with the world and how it operates, it seems to me that spinning someones ideas about how to deal with what is truly crisis problems with immigration, etc. doesn't come across as too convincing. Given the world as it is, do you think anyone would get away with your line of thinking to address the problems now? I can only painfully imagine the state of affairs if all government were to shut down and people were \"free\" to do whatever they please.  Do you really think there would be anything close to the property rights, individual rights, etc. that we have today? Do you not think their would be a mad rush for tyrants to build up large armies to rape and pillage whenever and wherever? I'll grant you that some of that already happens now with many governments, but I'm fairly confident it would be significantly worse without the rule of law in its current state.  The model you speak of isn't some new age philosophy but rather knowledge gained and acted upon as a result of hard learned lessons over time that has demonstrated how bad things can get when left unchecked aka history.  As for your obvious bias of Trump and lack of criticism of Clinton, I'm guessing your thoughts are more aligned with the Clinton mindset (if you HAD to choose)....no?",
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      "body": "I agree those programs shouldn't exist because it depends on taking by way of coercion and extortion (Income Taxes under threat of incarceration, etc. ) from some to give to others. \nAs for the \"State\", I happen to disagree. I tend to believe people should have the right to exercise the option to form a \"State\" for their mutual benefit and protection with some reservations (i.e. the right of expatriation) which is an option a good number of people have the option to exercise in the current state of affairs with \"States\". \nUnfortunately, depending on the good will of people to act in their own 'rational' self interest when left unchecked is a recipe for trouble. What is 'rational' self interest for some may not be considered 'rational' self interest for others and when it comes time to determine who is 'right' when there is a disagreement and the issue is to be resolved, who will be ultimate arbitrator of who is correct in situations where life and death is on the line...the person with the most assets at their disposal to pay for the 'justice' being sought? It's taken quite a long time for \"civilization\" to get to where we are today and to be sure it's been a rough and rocky road getting here but leaving it up to the whim of people individually to make up the rules as they choose doesn't sound too promising. If you are a straight up anarcho-capitalist, I'd be interested in posing some scenarios about how you'd propose they be addressed if interested?",
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