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VOTING POWER100.00%
DOWNVOTE POWER100.00%
RESOURCE CREDITS100.00%
REPUTATION PROGRESS0.00%
Net Worth
0.034USD
STEEM
0.000STEEM
SBD
0.000SBD
Effective Power
5.001SP
├── Own SP
0.629SP
└── Incoming Deleg
+4.371SP

Detailed Balance

STEEM
balance
0.000STEEM
market_balance
0.000STEEM
savings_balance
0.000STEEM
reward_steem_balance
0.000STEEM
STEEM POWER
Own SP
0.629SP
Delegated Out
0.000SP
Delegation In
4.371SP
Effective Power
5.001SP
Reward SP (pending)
0.001SP
SBD
sbd_balance
0.000SBD
sbd_conversions
0.000SBD
sbd_market_balance
0.000SBD
savings_sbd_balance
0.000SBD
reward_sbd_balance
0.000SBD
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  "savings_balance": "0.000 STEEM",
  "reward_steem_balance": "0.000 STEEM",
  "vesting_shares": "1025.035690 VESTS",
  "delegated_vesting_shares": "0.000000 VESTS",
  "received_vesting_shares": "7118.624116 VESTS",
  "sbd_balance": "0.000 SBD",
  "savings_sbd_balance": "0.000 SBD",
  "reward_sbd_balance": "0.000 SBD",
  "conversions": []
}

Account Info

namegwho
id521295
rank762,472
reputation73450520
created2017-12-23T05:13:42
recovery_accountsteem
proxyNone
post_count2
comment_count0
lifetime_vote_count0
witnesses_voted_for0
last_post2018-01-08T03:14:36
last_root_post1970-01-01T00:00:00
last_vote_time2018-01-23T08:02:54
proxied_vsf_votes0, 0, 0, 0
can_vote1
voting_power0
delayed_votes0
balance0.000 STEEM
savings_balance0.000 STEEM
sbd_balance0.000 SBD
savings_sbd_balance0.000 SBD
vesting_shares1025.035690 VESTS
delegated_vesting_shares0.000000 VESTS
received_vesting_shares7118.624116 VESTS
reward_vesting_balance2.047766 VESTS
vesting_balance0.000 STEEM
vesting_withdraw_rate0.000000 VESTS
next_vesting_withdrawal1969-12-31T23:59:59
withdrawn0
to_withdraw0
withdraw_routes0
savings_withdraw_requests0
last_account_recovery1970-01-01T00:00:00
reset_accountnull
last_owner_update1970-01-01T00:00:00
last_account_update1970-01-01T00:00:00
minedNo
sbd_seconds0
sbd_last_interest_payment1970-01-01T00:00:00
savings_sbd_last_interest_payment1970-01-01T00:00:00
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      ]
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    "weight_threshold": 1
  },
  "balance": "0.000 STEEM",
  "can_vote": true,
  "comment_count": 0,
  "created": "2017-12-23T05:13:42",
  "curation_rewards": 1,
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  "downvote_manabar": {
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    "last_update_time": 1779065610
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  "guest_bloggers": [],
  "id": 521295,
  "json_metadata": "",
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  "last_account_update": "1970-01-01T00:00:00",
  "last_owner_update": "1970-01-01T00:00:00",
  "last_post": "2018-01-08T03:14:36",
  "last_root_post": "1970-01-01T00:00:00",
  "last_vote_time": "2018-01-23T08:02:54",
  "lifetime_vote_count": 0,
  "market_history": [],
  "memo_key": "STM6zjnHHKrUggfUTeUAKd9Zan1BvNGz7gSxWqPzVWfnZEfw5WBXo",
  "mined": false,
  "name": "gwho",
  "next_vesting_withdrawal": "1969-12-31T23:59:59",
  "other_history": [],
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      ]
    ],
    "weight_threshold": 1
  },
  "pending_claimed_accounts": 0,
  "post_bandwidth": 0,
  "post_count": 2,
  "post_history": [],
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  },
  "posting_json_metadata": "",
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  "reward_vesting_steem": "0.001 STEEM",
  "savings_balance": "0.000 STEEM",
  "savings_sbd_balance": "0.000 SBD",
  "savings_sbd_last_interest_payment": "1970-01-01T00:00:00",
  "savings_sbd_seconds": "0",
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  "savings_withdraw_requests": 0,
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  "sbd_seconds": "0",
  "sbd_seconds_last_update": "1970-01-01T00:00:00",
  "tags_usage": [],
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  "transfer_history": [],
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Withdraw Routes

IncomingOutgoing
Empty
Empty
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  "incoming": [],
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}
From Date
To Date
steemdelegated 4.371 SP to @gwho
2026/05/18 00:53:30
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares7118.624116 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #106144212/Trx 8cd7c0231649438e1aa16ff3394ac20608ff981b
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  "op_in_trx": 0,
  "timestamp": "2026-05-18T00:53:30",
  "trx_id": "8cd7c0231649438e1aa16ff3394ac20608ff981b",
  "trx_in_block": 0,
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steemdelegated 2.706 SP to @gwho
2026/05/12 06:25:33
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares4406.413711 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #105978806/Trx 272b5e8f0326c5873050cfeaf522c4e28e1ca0c8
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  "timestamp": "2026-05-12T06:25:33",
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  "trx_in_block": 0,
  "virtual_op": 0
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steemdelegated 4.379 SP to @gwho
2026/04/26 00:13:24
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares7131.139872 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #105511846/Trx 61facaa81e20637a1269958dcb1e288174e51e74
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  "timestamp": "2026-04-26T00:13:24",
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  "trx_in_block": 1,
  "virtual_op": 0
}
steemdelegated 2.731 SP to @gwho
2026/01/23 09:30:30
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares4447.960530 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #102853856/Trx 87190541fd38f933fe393264e6ac6a2491231027
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  "timestamp": "2026-01-23T09:30:30",
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  "virtual_op": 0
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steemdelegated 2.832 SP to @gwho
2024/12/17 04:48:39
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares4612.179727 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #91300240/Trx 9ce445c2d7d189634bf3deaa3f1853db206dc63d
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  "timestamp": "2024-12-17T04:48:39",
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steemdelegated 2.936 SP to @gwho
2023/11/13 20:31:18
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares4781.313259 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #79854435/Trx 817fccb147c4362e8a59a186bebf5ec5604f00ca
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steemdelegated 4.740 SP to @gwho
2023/09/21 22:34:39
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares7718.592045 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #78348723/Trx 83d73972ec4e62608157d6197ff4a085e4eab2fd
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steemdelegated 4.876 SP to @gwho
2022/11/03 12:16:45
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares7940.273483 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #69113950/Trx a638e12ca30dba8a4e1f1a386f08b1187b72f90d
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steemdelegated 5.011 SP to @gwho
2022/01/17 11:29:54
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares8160.806714 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #60810061/Trx b063ba72a802243bf2e87c01d45786026dd735e2
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steemdelegated 5.124 SP to @gwho
2021/06/14 01:23:39
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares8344.575372 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #54608417/Trx 71bf1c072227f569ddd365c49f3c4c7661cd1812
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steemdelegated 5.239 SP to @gwho
2020/12/11 11:41:36
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares8531.997346 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #49355851/Trx e09d777831f713bc6bd16418b5af4d12f1277ca5
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  "op": [
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  "timestamp": "2020-12-11T11:41:36",
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steemdelegated 1.174 SP to @gwho
2020/12/06 05:18:42
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares1912.543513 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #49207410/Trx e843b600a1a63dada860cff28da2e193a6e97fa0
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  "op": [
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steemdelegated 5.243 SP to @gwho
2020/12/05 15:19:36
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares8538.205200 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #49190944/Trx 1d73ad06d8d7cf450134a7c8a17dacc66d9d0561
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steemdelegated 1.179 SP to @gwho
2020/11/02 16:49:03
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares1920.017158 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #48259188/Trx f217c5b0d4a4cc08fb38244772a3687403707517
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  "op": [
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  "timestamp": "2020-11-02T16:49:03",
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steemdelegated 5.368 SP to @gwho
2020/05/09 06:16:42
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares8741.010559 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #43217669/Trx 2d96cf91aaa4ccd023523788b1160fed2b7fa281
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  "op": [
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  "timestamp": "2020-05-09T06:16:42",
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steemdelegated 1.200 SP to @gwho
2020/05/08 09:58:09
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares1953.311140 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #43193868/Trx 9f8d13ac7e4f473611c47dc46ac5f42c83bfb6fd
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  "op": [
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steemdelegated 5.486 SP to @gwho
2019/06/09 11:21:57
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares8933.384159 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #33646921/Trx caa8ca24a5be726e4f1a74ff366c6e710c831df1
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2019/05/27 23:14:30
authorgwho
permlinkre-dobe4ever-i-trade-altcoins-vs-btc-only-not-vs-usd-here-is-why-20171224t180757686z
voterclaytonious
weight10000 (100.00%)
Transaction InfoBlock #33287183/Trx 50ec5d7ce2d7e7392c0536b5c79ce0c35b71c565
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2019/05/27 23:14:06
authorgwho
permlinkre-dobe4ever-i-trade-altcoins-vs-btc-only-not-vs-usd-here-is-why-20171224t180757686z
voterclaytonious
weight10000 (100.00%)
Transaction InfoBlock #33287175/Trx 1fbbd498ccd80ce837027b8d5005aa32cf64a116
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2019/05/27 23:06:27
authorgwho
permlinkre-dobe4ever-i-trade-altcoins-vs-btc-only-not-vs-usd-here-is-why-20171224t180757686z
voterclaytonious
weight10000 (100.00%)
Transaction InfoBlock #33287022/Trx 0a4c9908aa01fa0cc92e56d995be95ca47362399
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steemdelegated 5.608 SP to @gwho
2018/06/17 02:39:33
delegateegwho
delegatorsteem
vesting shares9132.561881 VESTS
Transaction InfoBlock #23389145/Trx d4ab1c316428db1bec500e1da37c37272b5188b1
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2018/01/08 03:14:36
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2017/12/26 23:47:42
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bodyGreat reply and thankful for initial post as I was considering it as well and we're all here to get better (both in our trading philosophy and financially). What I'm trying to decide in how to play these pairs and I think I agree with the original author on better to pair with BTC when you're in the 'trading mindset' but also agree with the replier (that a word?) that my end game is USD. So what I'm trying to decide is how that will play out over time? And we all have to make presumptions on what they believe and I'm in this camp: 1) USD is least volatile of any option and is my end game to eventually convert to 2) BTC is the less volatile, as compared to any other crypto and could be seen as the 'safest' investment in the crypto market today 3) Altcoins are most volatile of the three options and should be handled primarily as shortest term investments and only used a short term winners until they are not So my questions are: 1) Is it worth to convert to the altcoin (including fees) for a short amount for time while it outperforms BTC and the convert back when it's underperforming BTC (including another set of fees)? Both ways of exchanging performance are assumed here. 2) Is it also worth the time to manage all of that back n forth AND/OR is there a gap that makes sense to trade and not trade? (10% diff, 25% diff?, etc) 3) Will the erosion of all the trades and fees just eat away any gains I made and what's the point to just HODL BTC instead long term? I would also say that I'm not wanting to day trade either. I'm willing to watch daily and buy the big dips like last week (20-40% swing) mainly cause I don't want to get divorced. Hah! Again thanks for the original post and well thought out reply here.
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2017/12/24 18:10:42
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2017/12/24 18:08:00
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bodyI don't think the reasoning here is sound due to incomplete consideration of all possible scenarios. Short answer 1: If BTC drops against USD a lot, then all your alt gains relative to BTC is not worth a lot of USD, which is what you care about for purchasing stuff - at least until the real purchasing power of BTC becomes better than USD purchasing power, widespreadedness, and acceptance (effectively "replacing" the dollar or at least gaining the same status as USD in terms of acceptance as a currency to do commerce with). Short answer 2: If every alt coin was available to trade against USD, not just BTC, would you still be saying the same thing? Long version: If you have 3 entities, USD BTC ALT (e.g. ETH), then you can have the following possible rankings for percentage change. 1) USD > BTC > ALT 2) USD > ALT > BTC 3) BTC > USD > ALT 4) BTC > ALT > USD 5) ALT> USD > BTC 6) ALT > BTC > USD You described scenario #4 and #5 in your 3rd and 4th paragraphs respectively. You cherry-picked 2 out of 6 possible scenarios and said it was all the scenarios, but didn't take into consideration the other 4 scenarios, which may (and does as will be described) undermine your conclusion. The conclusion you made is this: "Any way you look at it you will always make bigger profits if you trade against BTC only." A word of clarification here: "against BTC" means trading something priced in BTC, NOT choosing to hold BTC. In the 4th paragraph aka scenario #5, where ALT > USD > BTC, the profits in terms of BTC may be higher. But if the real purchasing power of BTC is lower than the real purchasing power of USD, then your "greater profits" in terms of BTC is only in terms of BTC, which if it goes down, is not providing you with more purchasing power (i.e. real profit). Another point: You do mention the case where BTC going down against the USD as an overall trend. But in principle, you should care about it at every point at every level, not just the overall trend. "I will put everything into USDT & wait for the correction to finish so that then I can buy more BTC for cheaper than I sold." This has nothing to do with trading ALTS against BTC vs trading ALT in such a way that is priced in terms of USD. This is trading and timing decisions, just like when you say "Then why would you have your money into ETH vs USD if you know you'll have more profits having your money into BTC vs USD?" You're conflating completely separate concepts. The true ultimate goal is to maximize purchasing power. It's messy, but for now, it is largely USD. Prices of most goods are far more stable in terms of USD. Most things can't even be bought for BTC presently. Eager to hear your thoughts.
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