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2019/08/19 06:23:48
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2019/06/11 22:21:36
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bodyThe grand rule of the Jesuit Order is to make thinking conform with the Catholic Church. It is elaborated in 18 specific rules. Rule #13 is where the phrase "learning against learning," comes from. Isaac D'Israeli quotes Lord Hubert using that phrase when Hubert was recounting a Cardinal, Thomas Wolsey, addressing the pope about the dangers of the printing press to the Church's control. The goal of the Catholic Church became to start a "war against books" as D'Iraeli put it, in the last chapter "War Against Books" in his book Amenities of Literature from 1841. "The thirteenth, and finally, that we may be altogether of the same mind and in conformity with the Church herself, if she shall have defined anything to be black which to our eyes appears to be white, we ought in like manner to pronounce it to be white. [Autograph, The thirteenth: that we may in all things attain the truth (that we may not err in anything), we ought ever to hold it (as a fixed principle), that what I see white, I believe to be black, if the Hierarchical Church so define it (to be);]" The Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius Loyola, 1541. The dastardly Bertrand Russel explains this strategy was embraced by Johann Fichte, who "laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will," and that "the social psychologists of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black." The screenshots are from Ignatius Loyola in 1541, Edward Hubert around 1690 quoted by Isaac D'Israeli in 1841, and Johann Fichte's work from around 1800 quoted by Bertrand Russell in 1953. The blameworthy culprits for setting up learning against learning and waging a war on books are Ignatius Loyola, Thomas Wolsey, Johann Fichte, and Betrand Russell. Isaac D'Israeli deserves credit for fighting against the Jesuits. The Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius Loyola, 1541, https://archive.org/details/a588350800loyouoft/page/n229 Isaac D'Israeli, Amenities of Literature, 1841, https://archive.org/details/amenitieslitera08disrgoog/page/n434 Bertrand Russel, The Impact of Science on Society, 1953, https://archive.org/details/TheImpactOfScienceOnSociety-B.Russell/page/n17
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2019/06/06 20:55:51
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2019/05/30 22:28:36
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2019/05/29 20:52:48
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2019/05/29 20:43:06
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2019/01/09 06:21:03
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2019/01/09 02:03:30
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2016/09/20 14:29:27
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2016/09/20 14:29:27
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2016/09/16 12:02:42
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2016/09/16 02:15:30
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2016/09/16 00:04:54
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2016/09/15 22:06:57
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2016/09/15 22:05:45
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2016/09/15 19:31:03
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2016/09/15 19:28:12
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2016/09/15 19:26:42
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2016/09/15 19:25:39
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2016/08/21 22:30:27
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2016/08/21 07:49:54
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2016/08/21 04:24:15
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bodyI appreciate that you do the math to solve a problem, but this problem of the "Earthrise" photographic data, and other aerospace data not verified, is it could be manipulated. bit.do/fakeimage What images are you claiming are really taken from space? I'm asking also because it seems that it is philosophically impossible to render the Earth as an object of knowledge, and it seems physically impossible something like outer space exists. bit.do/earthnotanobject
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2016/08/19 18:35:15
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2016/08/19 18:06:15
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2016/08/19 10:24:54
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bodyIt is hard for some to accept that the curve should be visible. Instead they excuse the lack of visible curvature to the limits of eyesight, and assume things will disappear beyond the curve at distances grater than math dictates. Weirdly the zoom lens technology explains the common misunderstanding about 'ships disappearing'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEqDbsPUgH8
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2016/08/19 10:04:03
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bodyHi @ehall! > Do any of those NASA photographs convince you of their achievement, No, none of the NASA photographs convince **me**, but that is besides the point. Please note that I was not making any statement about the theory as a whole! I took a single, specific, concrete claim of evidence in its support and tested its veracity. Please consider also the PS, which contains a link that (seemingly) _supports_ the theory, to provide balance. --- Thank you for the video. Two claims are easily refuted here. The first claim is that the moon should appear to become bigger as it crosses the face of the planet, as its orbit is circular. But the segment of the circle is so short (~5h/~28d = 0.0149 ≙ 5.36°) that it would be unreasonable to expect any huge effect due to the curvature. The second claim is that the relation of the sizes is not right. I shortly mentioned it but didn't go more in-depth in my post. The point is this: side-by side, the ratio should be ~3.67. BUT in the picture, the satellite is allegedly 1,500,000 km away from earth, but the moon is ~384,403 km away from earth, which means only 1,115,597 km away from the camera - ~25% closer! That easily explains why the moon "looks too big". Without doubt, from a hundred and a thousand miles out, the ratio would get closer and closer to 3.67, as the objects in the foreground "shrink faster" when moving the camera away than those in the background. From a standpoint of intellectual honesty, these are not claims that should be made in support of flat earth or NASA fakery, they are too weak.
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