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      "body": "It's nice to finally find someone who tries to remain sane in this Monthy Python skit of a world we live in. Mind if I follow? \nI am also sick and tired of people all around me claming to have proofs and undeniable evidence of their beliefs... \n\nPersonally I think the whole world is a one big joke. I was a very hopeless case of a religious nutjob not so long ago. I used to believe some pretty fucked up shit. All the things that you said, I used to believe too at one point or another. But now I understand why I have been believeing this. And I understand why the rest of the world believes. But it still drives me nuts anytime they try to justify religion that I discovered to be nothing but bullshit. \nAnyway, thanks for posting. Nice to see that I'm not alone in this.\n\nAs for the concept of living forever, I guess it would work if eternity it was  divided into smaller fragments. Reincarnation is an example. But  i dislike the idea of having to learn everything from scratch every time. I think it would be cool to relive the life on this earth with all your memories from the past life. It would be like a life on cheatcodes :)",
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      "body": "Then stop beating around the bush and say it!: \"genocide and infanticide are both good and holy when God tells us to do it!\" This is what you said.\n\nAnd what's that shit about great and terrible day? Are you threatening me? And also you admit that god is up to things even more hideous than just petty genocide! Well how about that! And in spite of knowing this, you still choose to shill for him! Way to go!",
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      "body": "No, you still don't get it. What you're writing is proof of madness. What Abraham did was proof of his obedience,  trust, faith and humility. And he did it with a heavy heart. It was not: \"Cool, God ask me to sacrifice my only son, let's do it. I was waiting for that\". He understood the authority of God. And his promises. If you read more about his story you can see that his only son was given him by God's promise. And also he was promised to have great nation from his son. So he trusted God will do something great.  When people are doing the same thing it's not always the same thing.  Even this story shows great love of God because he spared Abraham's son (although he tested his obediance) and he gave His own Son Jesus to save us as a sacrifice for our sins. You need more wisdom brother, your thinking is too harsh.  Word of God (Bible) is great source of true wisdom but you need to read it in humble position, not with prejudice.",
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      "body": "God is perfect, good, and holy.  Anything He does is therefore perfect good and holy.  Therefore, it would not be appropriate to label His actions as you have done.  That's why you can't get Christians to apply your labels to God's actions.\n\nBut, I assure you that the Great and Terrible Day of the Lord will make everything you are crying about seem like a walk in the park.",
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      "body": "I'll repeat what I told that other guy: I will consider this if you prove that you really mean what you just said. If you really believe this than reply to this comment and write this:  \"I support genocide and holy wars done in the name of my God! I support everybody who murder men, pregnant women, children and infants when my God is telling them to do so! Genocide murder and slavery are morally good when my God is doing it!\" There. I dare you to sign your name under this statement. If you don't do this then everyone will see that all that you said was Bullshit and that you admit it. Anybody else want to try? Any bold and REAL Christian willing to defend their murderous genocidal psychopath god?",
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      "body": "Oh yeah? So you think you can trust god? Are you saying that Abraham did a good thing? Are you saying that you would do the same if you were him? That's what you're saying? Okay wise guy. I will think about what you said if you ditch the religious lingo and just say this again, but with normal words in one sentence loud and clear, so there is no mistake about it. I dare you to reply to this post and write: \"I TRUST MY GOD, THAT'S WHY I HEREBY DECLARE TO BE WILLING TO MURDER MY OWN CHILDREN IF MY GOD EVER TELLS ME SO!\"  Here, you have the chance to declare your trust and your ultimate faith! Show me and the whole world what it means to believe!  Your god will be so proud of you! And your family too!  Share the gospel of love! Show me that you really believe what you just said! I will reconsider my beliefs, if you only say it!  I dare you! I fucking dare you!",
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      "body": "Okay, that was a bad pun.\n\nMy wife invited her friends over to our house some time ago. She wanted to know if I didn't mind that they were a Christian couple. I said that I wouldn't, but I had a feeling that this will be a bit awkward, since they know that I'm no longer a believer and I know that they know this, and they also will be aware of that... And so it was awkward. Anytime somebody said something abut the church, or some pastor that they knew I just kept quiet. I decided to just wait until somebody chnges the subject and hoped that thi will be over soon. But everywhere the elefant was sitting in the room. A very big elefant in a very small room. And when we were outside, the elefant was following us around. Somebody just had to say it. \n\nSo we're sitting by the table and finally talking about faith and why I think it's all a scam and why I quit after being such a zealous minister. 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So much fucking and utter nonsense condensed in so few sentences. I could write a whole book tearing down just this one paragraph. This guy is in my house. And he's threatening me that his god will make me suffer. And than he refuses to give me any evidence that it's true. And then he points me to a book... He's suggesting that it only takes seeing something written down, to prove that this thing exists... I was speachless. I was aware that people this clueless exist, but it's always a marvel to encounter such a specimen and interact with it. To hear the words so offensively stupid being actually spoken in front of you by a person who actually takes it seriously. A person who seems educated and literate. \n\nI try to calm down and be reasonable about it. Of course if you could reason with a believer, he would seize being a believer. That's what Hugh Laurie said. And I know it's true, because it happened to me.\nI said to him: \n\"Listen, motherfucker. Do you know what faith is? It is feeling. A fucking EMOTION! It's a thing outside of your will that you cannot control. It's like hunger or sadness or a boner. You don't decide if you want to be sad, hungry or when you want to bang a bunch of teenage waitressess in the tits. Those things occur when certain conditions are met. You. Cannot. control. goddamn. feelings. \n\nYou cannot stop being hundry just by wanting it.\n\nYou cannot stop being sad on command.\n\nAnd you could not decide to keep your dick limp if some hot lass shoved your face between her tits.\n\nThe same is with faith. When certain conditions are present you either believe something or not. You cannot start believing in Santa Claus again. So why are you expecting me to believe what I cannot believe, if that is something I could not do even if I wanted to! In order to believe I need fucking evidence! I need proof that your bullshit has anything to it! Give me good evidence and than maybe you will meet the conditions for my brain to believe in god again! Just give me something I could hold on to! Something I could touch or see or experience! Do you have something like that, bitch?\"\n\n\"Well, if you want this kind of evidence, than you surely wont find it...\"\n\n\"And what does that tell you?\"\n\n\"Erm... That what we do have should be enough for you to believe?\"\n\n\"No. No you fucking tool. It means that you are spreading offensive and harmful rumors and you didn't even bother to check if they are true. This is called gossiping. And it also means that I have no reason to believe you. And you have no right to spread this bullshit.\"\n\n\"Hey! Are you against freedom of speech? You want to take away my rights to free speech?\"\n\n\"Playing the victim card already? No, of course you have the right to speak anything you want. But if you care for things like truth and morality, than you should shut your fucking trap and think. 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Will your god torture me forever because I am unable to believe in him? Do I deserve eternal suffering because I am unable to believe?!! Come on, tell me, you bitch! Do you think I deserve it?!!\"\n\n\"Yes! You deserve eternal flame and damnation for rejecting your lord and savior Jesus Christ who died on a cross for your sins!\"\n\nThis is what happens every time. They just snap and start reciting the same catchphrases. And then he goes on:\n\n\"Try to underdtand me. Even without evidence you have to consider that if God exists, than you are in terrible danger and you have to take it into account! You cannot prove that this is a lie, so there is a possibility that it's true! And if there is any possibility of hell you have to treat it as an absolute certainty!\"\n\n...\n\n...\n\nYes. He really fucking said that.\n\nYou heard the same logic in Batman V Superman, and you probably facepalmed, shaked your head and laughed. 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Why would I waste my time considering  something that is so unprobable! I could not believe this even if I tried!\"\n\nThe moment he said that a thunder struck. The door was kicked in with a force so great that they hit the wall o the opposite side. We all gasped as the sillouette of a man appeared before our eyes and entered the kitchen. And we both knew the man. \nIt was Christopher Hitchens. He was rolling in his grave so much that he rose from the dead. And now he came here.\nHe approached my guest, who was white on his face, unable to move. \nYOU!\nthat was what we heard right before Christopher Hitchens grabbed this guy by the shirt and raised him up. Than he smashed his nose flat with one swing of his shiny bald head. Than he started spitting in his eyes like a machine gun until the saliva was dripping all over his face down his shirt and on the floor... \nThan he started tearing him to shreds limb after limb after limb, screaming: \"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU USELESS PIECE OF SHIT! 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      "body": "Interesting post and I understand your logic. But when you trust someone it's different. If God told you to sacrifice your child you would not do it.  Abraham did it, because he trusted Him.  He trusted because he knew God. Another case, imagine you're fixing electricity in your house. You tell your wife to switch off main power supply which is in another room.  A while after she is shouting it's done. You have no problem to start fixing power plug because you trust her.  Electricity can also kill you. Problem is when people trust bad people and sick people who don't know God think that they hear from Him.",
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So they are incredibly powerful. And this one person I know claims to have the means to communicate with them. Now those beings are channeling their thoughts and instructions to this person. And the way that those aliens reveal their presence and will is by the use of various forms of paranormal activity and telepathy. So this person is having visions and is hearing voices in their head.\n\nSo I once asked:\n\"Wait, so those creatures who can control matter and thoughts, they rule the universe, they can build worlds and create sentient intelligent life... Why do they even need you?\"\n\n\"Oh, they need me. They need me to tell everybody about their existence. Because it is the most effective way of doing things. Those beings just want to help us and tell us how to live and what to think, and what are we not allowed to do, and what are we not allowed to think. So you know, this world could finally be a better place. And I have to tell people all about it. They also promised me that they will take us to their homeworld, where they will enhance our bodies and make us forever young and rich. I'm supposed to be telling everybody about it because all those aliens want is our well being.\"\n\nHe also warned me once:\n\"Be careful because there are other people that claim to be the alien ambassadors as well, but many of them are impostors. You can easily tell them from the real ones, because they talk all sorts of ridiculous nonsense. They tell people that everlasting youth can be achieved by consuming the material tissue of those immaterial beings, and that they are able to transmutate earthly matter into this alien tissue. And so many ignorant fools fell for it. I can't understand how people can be so gullible!\"\n\nSo I asked:\n\"But how can you prove that you yourself are telling the truth?\"\n\n\"Why wouldn't anyone believe me? Can anyone prove that I lie? Don't you want riches and everlasting youth? Just look around! The existence of the world is proof itself that it had to be built by brilliant powerful beings from another dimension! The whole universe is a proof! Who could possibly argue with the universe? And if that is not enough, than I can perform special alien ritual with incantations and symbolic gestures that can summon the immaterial presence of those beings. And thanks to that ritual humans can receive power from those aliens!\"\n\n\"Why that would be huge! Do you already have this power? Can you show me what you can do with it?\"\n\n\"Of course!\"\n\nAnd so they showed me. This person closed their eyes, raised their arms and started speaking unintelligible jibberish for about a minute. \n\n\"There! I have been speaking the secret language of alien beings from another dimension! Now you have the proof that I have their power! Still unconvinced?\"\n\nFor some reason I was not convinced. \n\n\"Well It's evidently because you are unreasonably sceptical and you have a closed mind. That's your problem right here. I will reason with you no more, but be wary, that if you remain this foolish, one day you will regret it. I have to tell you that those aliens are planning to invade our planet and annihilate everything that lives. And the only ones spared will be people like me.\"\n\n\"But why would they do that?\" - I asked - \"First you tell me how benevolent they are, and now you're saying that they are bloodthirsty invaders who will bring about global genocide! Why would they want to murder us all?\"\n\n\"Well, it's beacuse they created us as inferior creatures compared to them. In fact, we are so inferior that they despise us and are disgusted to have anything to do with us. And they blame us for how they made us, and they are very disappointed that we are not able to be as perfect and good as they are. But they can still fix us! They just need to teleport us to their world, but first you need o accept that it is true! Otherwise they will be very angry.\"\n\n\"Why are you siding with those creatures? Don't you care about their murderous intentions and their lack of empathy for us?\"\n\n\"Well, to tell you the truth, They have already did me some favours nad by the way, for me it is a pretty great deal in the long run, don't you think?\"\n\n\"So you say that you have sold yourself to them for a promise of riches and everlasting youth? You have accepted a bribe from psychopatic monsters and you're boasting about it!\"\n\n\"Why are you are making it sound so bad? I just have a different point of view. Besides, admit it: the world had it coming. People will pay for all the immorality.\"\n\n\"Immorality? And what do you think a global genocide is called? Charity? You think that creatures like that are even going to kep their word and spare you?\"\n\n\"You know what? You think you're so smart and you're just trying to find a hole in the whole. And you know what's the worst thing with you?\"\n\n\"What?\" - I asked - \"Tell me.\"\n\nAnd this person told me:\n\"YOU SPEAK OF THINGS THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT! And you want to convince me while you have NOTHING TO BACK UP YOUR ARGUMENTS! And with an attitde like that you fully deserve to be eradicated.\"\n\nWell, that's about it. This person to this day is trying to sell people the idea of aliens from another dimension that want to help us not get murdered by them.\n\nI'm sure you alredy know what the twist is: Yes, this guy is a Christain. He may be more on the charismatic side, but what he believes pretty much covers most of the spectrum. I just removed all religious words and replaced them with apropriate synonyms. And that reveals what Christians really believe.",
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