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      "body": "Hello Bcash my old friend, \nwe've come to price pump once again.\nswitch the miners to the bcash chain, \nspam btc with transaction pain, \nwith the dumping of my massive bitcoin stack, I shall attack!\nTo take the crown of bitcoin.\n\nIn youtube vids I go berserk \nand undo all my branding work,\nIf my coin was really worth the price I am trying to reach,\nit would be a peach\nto take the crown of bitcoin.\n\nAnd in the market sites I saw some 5 times gains, maybe more, \npeople buying without thinking, prices rising without sinking.\nPeople writing facebook posts that most would just ignore, \nthey bought some more.\nTo take the crown of bitcoin.\n\nFools said \"Verr you do not know, see on the market bitcoin grows\"\n\"see the fees that I may fleece you\", \"wait a week for transfers to come through\"\nBut my coin rose up through the crypto market caps\nwithout collapse\nto take the crown of bitcoin\n\nAnd the people bowed and prayed before the bitcoin jesus, I was made.\nand the coin lashed out it's warning, red candles as it started falling\nAnd the brand switch fell like teardrops in the night, I gave up the fight\nto take the crown of bitcoin.",
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      "body": "It does depend a lot on how much of the circulating supply is actually in circulation. There are millions of bitcoins which are effectively not in circulation because of lost keys, bad transaction address entry and other issues. The market price of a coin in the short term is determined by availability on the markets and demand. If there are only 50 coins for sale across all the markets and 1 is on sale for $10 million above the rest of the $0.1 sell orders and someone buys 0.00000001 of that market order the \"price\" will be $10 million as far as the market data is concerned. Market capitlisation and circulating supply are yet another massively inaccurate measure we use to estimate things. Exciting isn't it?\n\n If the price spikes on any coin some folk will be shaken out of their desire to hold in their wallet so there will be an influx of market supply from storage. This should lead to a dip in price but the holders may well decide to set their sell orders above current \"market price\" and so the price can continue up from my $10 million as long as there are people looking to buy. Who wants to sell a coin for $0.1 when they paid $10 mil for it but they don't want to pay $10 mil again so they populate the order book with lower than $10mil but not too much and suddenly you have price support. if people continue to buy, you get bitcoin's meteoric rise.",
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      "body": "Mark Gregory Wood\nNew member · 4 hrs\n\n*SCAM SCAM SCAM !!!*\nWell, the headline seems legit....\n\n*It has come to our notice( Trade options and FX trade) that these scammers now develop new tactics to scam innocent members in this group due to the fact that have little knowledge of how the system works and the anxieties of members who don't want to take their time to learn the step by step techniques of how to make it in Binary.*\n\nNote to self: the entire \"Trade options and FX trade\" doesn't know how to construct a sentence. \n*Be sure to ask for the trading license of any one who claims to be an account manager. Most of them are fake. Report any suspicious scam activity let's do a total clean up from the mess they have put us in. Our hard earned money is so important to us and loosing it to a con artist is not an option. You can contact us on face book or inbox us *********@gmail.com for more info and procedures*\n\n\"our hard earned money is so important to us\" sounds reasonable. Then again the implication that your hard earned money isn't important.. wouldn't want to loose it to a con man. Loose? \nThe trade options and FX trade has no dedicated domain, email address and relies upon facebook for their communications.\n\nWell. This is low hanging fruit isn't it.",
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      "body": "1. *Buy low sell higher.*\nSeems clear enough, you don't want to be closing a position at  a loss. Except... is it really a loss? You bought the token with BTC, Ether or LTC somewhere and those tokens fluctuate against fiat so while you may be selling for a lower quantity of sats you may well be ending up with a higher dollar amount. Yes, it would be nice if your gain was against BTC as well as fiat but unless you intend to start paying your bills with a crypto credit / debit / payment magic card then it really does not matter.\n\n2. *Opportunity cost* !!!\nIf you end up in a bad position because your chosen token has gone down against your purchasing token then there is a temptation (and advice) to get out of that position in order to line up a more profitable trade as soon as possible. You make a short term loss (maybe even a fiat loss) but if you can line up a profitable trade with your purchasing token in the near future then the loss goes away... right? 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      "body": "Some terms : Wallet.\n1. This can be a foldy thing with nothing in it but some declined credit cards, an ID, possibly a fake ID, a perished condom from the days of hope.\n2. It can be a bit of software which runs on your PC, Mac or mobile.\n\nCase 1: It's best not to leave this around the place because anyone could walk by and pick it up. Don't leave it on the side of the street and expect to find it again. You may find it, a generous person may return it to you with or without the prophylactic. Not a good plan though. Keep it in your underwear at all times just to be safe. \n\nCase 2: Any software downloaded from anywhere may contain BAD THINGS. You would not invite random passers by into your home to enjoy your stuff like it was thier own and generally speaking it's not a good idea to invite strangers to use your computer like it was theirs. \nIf your computer has been hijacked or infected with virii before then you need to raise your game, stop downloading stuff from dubious sites, stop clicking on those invoice attachments that nice strangers tell you detail your refund or lottery win from something you've never heard of. Everyone likes to feel special or lucky, just remember that everyone is actually out to get your  stuff and you should be fine. \nFeel special because you are worth trying to con! A large proportion of the planet's population literally does not have a pot to piss in and someone has taken time out of their day to try and steal your pisspot! You are a beautiful snowflake!\nThat said, don't let them take the piss.\n\nThe computer is not your friend. The computer is complex layers of complex systems carefully crafted so that even a simple monkey like me can hammer out drivel like this without being able to program in C++.\nSome bad people can program in c++, or other easier languages. Some of those people are interested in using your computer as if it were their own by hijacking your processor to mine crypto, they may want your internet access to carry out massive distributed denial of service attacks against companies with bigger pots of piss than you can even dream of.\nThey may want to gain access to your bank details to steal your money directly from the bank or they may want to get hold of your crypto assets. \nWhat better way to find potential victims of crypto theft than to package the funnel as a wallet for crypto assets. The victim selects themself by downloading the wallet and running it! They're practically begging to be robbed right?\nWell, sometimes not so much but it is definitely worth investing in antivirus protection.\nWhen your antivirus tells you there is something wrong with an executable, perhaps the person to trust about \"false positives\" is not the person trying to get you to run the program?\nI'm not saying your computer is YOUR enemy, I'm just saying that it may be under the control of your enemy. If you've \"invested\" hundreds of foldy country papery token things into an intangible token thing then it may be wise to invest some foldy stuff into security to at least warn you when you're about to pour your own pisspot over your head.\n\nThe long con is of course to run an ICO, sell tokens with some semi-credible use case and value proposition to people, use the funds raised to hire PR, management, programmers, imagineers, reddit bots, media attention and then to produce some sort of radical decentralised system to shake the very foundations of the world as we know it. I haven't seen that work yet but I am ever hopeful.\nIf one of those token sales goes to the moon and I hold it, would anyone be interested in sharing a perished prophylactic?",
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      "body": "All coins are tokens, not all tokens are coins.\nSome tokens are utility tokens in that they provide fuel for a process / rationing system. Ether from the Ethereum platform is a utility token but it is being used as a store of value because it's in demand. The demand is driven partly by a need to own ether to use the etherem platform and (in my opinion) mostly because people want it, so other people want it, so the price goes up so more people want it.\nA cryptocoin is designed as a method of exchanging value and that's all. Coins can store value, Bitcoin is a good example of a value store coin. It has no utility other than to hold value for exchange but people want them, so its value rises (so far, on a long term basis)\nIf an ICO is selling a utility token then be vary wary of investing, it will hold no value unless people value the utility it provides.\nIf an ICO is offering a coin then be extremely wary because they're looking to swap something which people do value (your coins / tokens) for something which has no proven value at all.\nTo confuse things further, people use the words interchangably. While it's possible to make profit in real terms from buying into a token sale / ICO there will be a long wait to realise profits or the whole thing will collapse and your investment will wither and disappear. Sorry to be a downer but most ICOs / token sales will result in project failure or were scams to begin with.\nMost of the top 10 tokens / coins in terms of value and market cap have been in development and circulating for a year or more and have products or uses which are proven.\n\nQuestion from the audience:  Another silly one for you : wasnt the concept of bitcoin - one currency - so everyone has equal wealth in the end? If so - then why are there different coins coming up....Infact every industry has its own coin/token and now every company is jumping on to it - this in my mind is greed - to again gain control ......\n\nAnswer : Quite a lot of it is greed. Effectively it is now possible to print your own money and if people are prepared to exchange your new money for their old (and useful money) then it has value. ICOs are a response to the restrictive regulations of investment opportunities, which do protect investors although they prevent anyone without $10k or $100k from investing at all. The tokens / coins you make are not shares or contract, they're just maths. They are fundamentally worthless even though energy went into their creation.\nThe main driver behind the creation of bitcoin was the 2007/8 credit crisis (I think). It's an open ledger, so anyone moving bitcoin around is open to scrutiny and there's no way to hide the fraud. That's the theory anyhow. Bitcoin has become an investment mainly because since the credit crunch people have been looking for somewhere to preserve their value and grow it. Banks don't offer good returns, inflation is being crushed, wages are near to static (in real terms down up to 25% from 2008). An anti inflationary currency / commodity with a hard limit to supply is what people wanted and bitcoin works. Importantly bitcoin cannot be taken over by government without vast expense and most legislators don't understand what the internet is so they're hardly going to spend tax dollars on taking over bitcoin.\n\nThe underlying blockchain is a great bit of tech, it could be used to remove the need for banks altogether and provide absolute transparency in financial matters. Some consider this disruptive .\nCompanies offering tokens / coins are either thinking they can get competitive advantage in their business field or they're looking to cut costs. Those with foresight will see that this technology will do to the financial services what robotics has done to product assembly.\nJ.P.Morgan Chase (?) has made 172 failed patent applications for blockchain type platforms and yet their boss says bitcoin is a scam. Bless him.\nPutting on my tinfoil hat for a moment: There are many projects in the crypto currency world which are entirely about putting the boot on our necks but as long as governments don't catch on to the threat to their power too soon, they'll have lost. China saw a threat to their economic control so they've squashed it but bitcoin holders are still able to exchange goods and services without state intervention. People tend to find ways around the imposed rules, so the future is bright! Or it's a radioactive wasteland... but a bright one",
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