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Although there are certain characteristics common to these, like being hard to counterfeit and of somewhat limited supply, none of these characteristics alone suffice to guarantee value. \n \nWhat makes a potential store of value into a current store of value is the belief of people with economic power. If beads can buy Manhattan, they are being valued as more than their intrinsic value alone would justify. When this additional speculative value is sustained over a significant period of time and with sufficient economic power, it makes sense to recognize a store of value.\n \nNow, because stores of value that are recognized as such are long-lived, it is rare to see the creation of a new store of value. Before cryptocurrency, a notable example would be the creation of the Euro. 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      "body": "@@ -6672,8 +6672,1502 @@\n  it has.\n+%0A%0AEdit: One of the best quotes, from even earlier, which I'd missed on first pass as I reviewed the BCT comments and whitepaper but not the mailing list:%0A%0A%22Long before the network gets anywhere near as large as that, it would be safe %0Afor users to use Simplified Payment Verification (section 8) to check for %0Adouble spending, which only requires having the chain of block headers, or %0Aabout 12KB per day.  Only people trying to create new coins would need to run %0Anetwork nodes.  At first, most users would run network nodes, but as the %0Anetwork grows beyond a certain point, it would be left more and more to %0Aspecialists with server farms of specialized hardware.  A server farm would %0Aonly need to have one node on the network and the rest of the LAN connects with %0Athat one node.%0A%0AThe bandwidth might not be as prohibitive as you think.  A typical transaction %0Awould be about 400 bytes (ECC is nicely compact).  Each transaction has to be %0Abroadcast twice, so lets say 1KB per transaction.  Visa processed 37 billion %0Atransactions in FY2008, or an average of 100 million transactions per day.  %0AThat many transactions would take 100GB of bandwidth, or the size of 12 DVD or %0A2 HD quality movies, or about $18 worth of bandwidth at current prices.%0A%0AIf the network were to get that big, it would take several years, and by then, %0Asending 2 HD movies over the Internet would probably not seem like a big deal. %22%0A%0A-%5Bsource%5D(https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg09964.html)\n",
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      "body": "Did you bother reading the post or just reply based on the title?\n\nSo to be clear, your position is that there are zero issues, but if there were, they would all be solved by segwit, right?",
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      "body": "Just a comment with a bit of context I didn't feel like throwing in the main post. I write about cryptocurrency in general and nyancoin in particular on https://www.reddit.com/r/nyancoins generally, but in discussion on Cryptsy trollbox this site was suggested, so I decided to try it out.\n\nFor my first post, I thought that making a more general essay rather than talking about nyancoin specifically made more sense, but I'm likely to talk about nyancoin more in future posts.\n\nAs can be seen here, I tend to ramble somewhat. Everything is basically a first draft. But hey, it's an original post for you guys, so I hope someone enjoys it!",
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