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| body | Do you think these markets are ripe enough to be subject to technical analysis? In my eyes cryptos are mostly news driven, have little measurable fundamentals and are extremely difficult to asses in any meaningful way. I maybe wrong though... |
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| body | Sorry to call this out, but in my eyes this is typical gold bug/doom and gloomer fear mongering to prop up your investments. The narrative is old and worn out - the evil "them" want us all dead, keep lying to everyone about everything and keep stealing from us all. So we must all buy gold, silver, guns, water etc. I know its a populist thing to say in this context, but compare the standards of living of today with say 100 years ago for an average citizen. The progress has been dramatic. You may have a lot of valid points short term, but the world is so interconnected these days that even though armies are getting stronger, Putin is the last one to pull the trigger on anyone outside the middle east. He's got way too much to lose and is a pretty clever guy. There's a proverb saying "if you want peace, prepare for war". Hitlery Clinton knows this first hand, their administartion and the following one have had their asses handed on plate by him a number of times. Russia is rich in resources, farmland and pretty much self sufficient. It's business friends with China and India, there's BRICS to offload some of the US dominance. Putin is pretty cross with aggressive Nato agenda, but that's been going on for decades and he knows his way around. He anexed Crimea without bliking an eyelid - a move that caused a hypocritical uproar, even though was so easy to predict - you don't cut off an empire from a strategic naval outlet. The really f-ed people these days are the ones in the middle east where all the "action" is. That's where the war crazies with evil sounding surnames (Wolfovitz, Rumsfeld, Cheyney etc.) get to play with their toys funded by taxpayers. That I agree with. The rest is old news, repackaged over and over. PS. I was buying gold when it was $650, selling at around $1100. A bit too early. It might've been around 2007 or 2008. Since then this narrative was on, pounded on by the apocalyptically inclined traders, usually pushing their views to promote their investments. It's almost a decade later, the world is still here and gold is roughly the same price as it was when I was selling it in 2010. |
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| body | > I might've misunderstood the "flag" somehow, I thought it was intended to mark content that people consider inappropriate, and not provide tangible feedback to the author. In that sense the flag provides both functionalities: it warns other readers and gives feedback to the author so that they have a chance to fix the post. > What I had in mind was a system where negative votes offset positive ones. That way you can properly review stuff, a bit like in real life. That's indeed a good way to look at it. > What occurred to me is that having a strong feeling about something that cannot be expressed is not the equivalent of censorship, but a technical limitation. You have a good point here. This "technical limitation" does mute you (as you can still write a comment saying: "I think this post is overpaid") but it makes you powerless even though theoretically you have the power. I don't really know how to call this state. |
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| body | This is an internally flawed argument in my eyes. Your need for a downvote functionality is offset by someone else's need to not have it. When taken to absurd extremes it becomes clearer. Suppose you demanded the right to imprison people, because of a deep need to express yourself in such a way, and swore that your neighbourhood would thank you for your decisions. And reasoned that since you're a responsible person, you would never abuse it so others can trust you. Also you hope that since everyone will be granted equal rights, other people will not go off the rails imprisoning everyone. I think the flaw with the "stifled feelings" here is this: if the playing field is even (as it is with Steem - everyone is subject to the same set of rules), there can be no talk of censorship per se. No one is really getting censored. It's more a hindrance of a missing and perhaps very valuable functionality. Having said all that, I totally agree with you that Steemit would benefit from a proper downvote option, simply because negative feedback is productive, awakening and valuable. Of course it can be abused, but so can the positive one (as sycophant like behaviours sometimes show us). It needs to be figured out well and tested first, but I'm pretty sure that in the long run, it would strengthen the community, filter out a lot of garbage and add to the value and perception of Steem. So all in all, I agree with the conclusion of your post, but not exactly with the reasoning you provided. |
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"body": "This is an internally flawed argument in my eyes. Your need for a downvote functionality is offset by someone else's need to not have it. \nWhen taken to absurd extremes it becomes clearer. Suppose you demanded the right to imprison people, because of a deep need to express yourself in such a way, and swore that your neighbourhood would thank you for your decisions. And reasoned that since you're a responsible person, you would never abuse it so others can trust you. Also you hope that since everyone will be granted equal rights, other people will not go off the rails imprisoning everyone.\n\nI think the flaw with the \"stifled feelings\" here is this: if the playing field is even (as it is with Steem - everyone is subject to the same set of rules), there can be no talk of censorship per se. No one is really getting censored. It's more a hindrance of a missing and perhaps very valuable functionality.\n\nHaving said all that, I totally agree with you that Steemit would benefit from a proper downvote option, simply because negative feedback is productive, awakening and valuable. Of course it can be abused, but so can the positive one (as sycophant like behaviours sometimes show us). \nIt needs to be figured out well and tested first, but I'm pretty sure that in the long run, it would strengthen the community, filter out a lot of garbage and add to the value and perception of Steem. \n\nSo all in all, I agree with the conclusion of your post, but not exactly with the reasoning you provided.",
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| body | I actually enjoyed this debate quite a lot. Vays is biased and possibly sometimes uninformed, but the whole exchange still comes across pretty meaningful. A voice of an uniformed sceptic is in my eyes valuable, possibly for different reasons than you would ideally like to see, but still a lot of interesting points are getting addressed. Being in Vays' position, I would certainly spare anyone my personal opinions on Dan or other people involved in Steemit, which is what happens when se seems to project his impressions of Bitshares onto Steemit, tying them to the authors. Serial entrepreneurship is trial and error most of the time, so judging someone in that manner is actually a big giveaway of biased judgement. Fortunately Jeff is pretty quick to point it out to him. |
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| body | Tone Vays has a really terrible vibe here, a mixture of a sore looser and a biased know-it-all. He makes some valid points from time to time (Steem marketcap being "unfairly" high because of lockup), but his bias is really badly felt. Kudos to Jeff for not getting caught up in this too much. There's a huge gap between their mindsets, and Vays looses this badly. |
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| body | @@ -972,9 +972,231 @@ alarmed +, even if the causes happened to be completely unrelated, for example some babe getting a new botox implant ;) %0ASteem has to pull its weight through all the freedom it introduces - that would be my closing line in this one . |
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| body | In my eyes this is subject of one's individual sense of loyalty. But when bigger picture is considered, Steem is meant to be the an ultimately democratic platform, where you can upvote whatever you want, write whatever you want and downvote whatever you want. Thus telling people what they should and shouldn't write is not exactly in line with these assumptions. Also note that you are allowed to spend your dollars made on Steem on whatever you want including guns, hookers and all, and although I understand that the very post is trying to raise money for some external cause and has no other value, no one can force anyone to upvote or downvote it if they don't find it meaningful or harmful. But of course, you can campaign against it like you just did - that is also your sacred right. But if Steem decided to ban this by definition, started removing or blocking posts like that, or having official committees deciding what goes and what doesn't, I would be very alarmed. |
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