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2019/07/19 01:01:57
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2018/07/19 01:17:18
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bodyCongratulations @chayaleah! You have received a personal award! [![](https://steemitimages.com/70x70/http://steemitboard.com/@chayaleah/birthday2.png)](http://steemitboard.com/@chayaleah) 2 Years on Steemit <sub>_Click on the badge to view your Board of Honor._</sub> **Do not miss the last post from @steemitboard:** [SteemitBoard World Cup Contest - The results, the winners and the prizes](https://steemit.com/steemitboard/@steemitboard/steemitboard-world-cup-contest-the-results-and-prizes) > Do you like [SteemitBoard's project](https://steemit.com/@steemitboard)? Then **[Vote for its witness](https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/account-witness-vote?witness=steemitboard&approve=1)** and **get one more award**!
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2016/09/04 08:55:30
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2016/07/21 03:21:27
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body<h1>Bravo, Encore!</h1> I'm autistic and these guys in white coats have been trying to push those drugs on me for decades. No thanks, I'm MUCH more productive on the correct strains of cannabis, thanks. :) Incidentally, high CBD cannabis is very good at helping you get OFF of psyche meds. ;) <h2>Keep it Clean!</h2> ------------------------------------- <ul><li><a href="https://steemit.com/newauthor/@thecleangame/new-author-self-published-secrets-to-growing-trichome-dense-cannabis-a-guide-to-full-expression-flowers-free-intro">Steemit Preview of My Book <strong>"Secrets to Growing Trichome Dense Cannabis"</strong></a></li> <li><a href="https://steemit.com/cannabis/@thecleangame/cannabis-is-non-addictive">Cannabis is Non-Addictive</a></li> <li><a href="https://steemit.com/photography/@thecleangame/super-high-resolution-purple-cannabis-macro-free-wallpaper-of-the-quality-of-cannabis-i-grow">Super High Resolution Purple Cannabis WallPaper!</a></li> <li><a href="https://steemit.com/society/@thecleangame/15-negative-side-effects-of-cannabis-prohibition-that-should-be-obvious-to-anyone">15 Negative Side Effects of Prohibition</a></li> </ul>
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2016/07/21 02:18:51
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bodyQuestion: I was telling someone about your work and she asked about the people whose mental illness makes them violent. She did not believe it would be good for these people to go off their psych meds. I did not know how to respond to her. What are your thoughts? How would you respond? Chaya Grossberg: Thanks for asking. This question is complicated because it involves certain assumptions and interpretations that have never been proven to be true. It isn’t “someones mental illness” that makes them violent since people can be violent whether or not they’ve received a psychiatric label. It is a matter of many factors that get someone labeled with a mental illness, but none are objective. Some psychiatric drugs cause violence (it is fairly well known that most of the mass murderers in schools in recent years have been on psych drugs). The other complication is that psych drugs, like all toxic substances, have withdrawal effects which might lead to violence. So someone in withdrawal might be more likely to be violent. Violence is mostly a learned behavior and is generally perpetuated by victims of violence and trauma. I think focusing on healing from abuse and trauma would be more direct than labeling and drugging. There may be cases where drugs are chosen to sedate someone and make them less likely to be aggressive (if they are really tired) but I see this as a short term emergency “solution” and certainly not a resolution. Psychiatric drugging and other mental health “treatments” are also a form of violence. So we must ask ourselves if this repression of emotions is in fact acceptable as an approach if we strive for non-violence. It has never been shown that persons labeled with a mental illness are more likely to be violent than others though. I know violent people who have never been to a therapist or psychiatrist and the gentlest people in the world who have many psych labels. In fact, Thomas Insel, director of the National Institute of Mental Health, recently stated that all DSM labels lack validity and are not scientific. So it’s important to admit and acknowledge that these labels are arbitrary and can be given to anyone in a crisis at any time. They don’t indicate a fundamental illness. Ever.
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bodySome people associate wanting to be famous with their ego, but for me hiding is the preference of my ego. Being seen and exposed and vulnerable to the masses are purifying and healthy for me. And coincidentally they are my highest form of service to others. Being known. Because everyone who knows me in the utterly authentic way I put myself out there is likely to feel less alone. Being known is a gift I give freely and publicly, which many do not, but it is my preference to live this way. It is my form of practicing the gift economy, to be exposed and honest, to tell others freely how my life works, so they can pick and choose which of my methods and ways resonate with them. This revealing, I believe, is one of the biggest gifts we can offer others. I’d almost always rather hear the authentic experience of another than receive their advice. Why is this? Reading or hearing an experience makes me feel connected, and that’s what brings fulfillment in life. Advice can help, but often when we’re feeling connected we don’t need any advice at all. We realize in these moments we aren’t perfect and don’t need to be. This fosters self-acceptance and acceptance of others, which just may be the starting point of the new world we are creating, as well as the antithesis of most problems in the world. If all people accepted themselves and others, just as we are, there would be no need for psychiatric drugs or other forms of warfare. Rather, we’d be busy revealing and expressing ourselves in satisfying ways. How is revealing healing for you? What would the world look like if we all revealed ourselves?
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bodyby Chaya Grossberg (me) 1. Psych drugs are prescribed by a doctor so they’re safe. 2. You can stop taking psych drugs easily if they don’t help. 3. Psych drugs correct a chemical imbalance. 4. Psych drugs stabilize people. 5. Psych drugs are medicine to treat an illness. 6. Psych drugs don’t do harm. 7. The “side effects” of psych drugs aren’t so bad. 8. Psych drugs make relationships function better. 9. Psych drugs reduce violence. 10. Psych drugs make it easier for people to work through trauma. 11. Psych drugs have been tested for long term use. 12. Doctors know how psych drugs work. 13. Psych drugs save more lives than they kill. 14. Psych drugs increase functionality. 15. Psych drugs get people out of bed more than they flatten people in bed. 16. Psych drugs reduce disability rates. 17. Psych drugs make people feel like themselves again (by altering emotional responses). 18. Psych drugs help children learn better. 19. The main problem is the stigma against taking psych drugs. 20. It’s kind and caring to suggest psych drugs to family and friends. 21. Forcing psych drugs on someone against their will is compassionate. 22. Psych drugs should be used preventively in children and pregnant women. 23. Psych drugs are safer than illicit drugs. Please add other myths you’ve come across in the comments below.
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2016/07/20 02:51:33
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bodyThanks for reading and responding. What do you mean by black and white here? Wow, you've tried over 200!!! Not sure whether to say that's impressive or just WHOA. What would getting it right be?
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bodyIn order for an experience to create a life mission and strong sense of purpose, it has to affect you to the core. Though I was only on psychiatric drugs for a few years of my life (and the very lowest “clinical” doses available), they affected me so strongly and took away so much that I could never forget or simply leave that experience behind me. I share this list, not to torture people who are on them or struggling to get off, reminding them of how much is being taken away (or could be taken away), but rather to validate the desire that many have to not take these substances and to be supported in better ways. I share this to validate how very necessary it is to create better systems for being with trauma and to facilitate the withdrawal process for those who would like to come off in every way we possibly can. When I was on a psychiatric drug cocktail at age 21-22, I lost the abilities to do the things on this list with any regularity. Many of these things I could not do at all. Once I got off of them, slowly and carefully, which was quite tedious and difficult, all of these capacities returned to me. 1. Reading 2. Thinking clearly 3. Communicating my thoughts with others directly 4. Night vision 5. 20/20 vision during the day 6. Eating all kinds of foods 7. Traveling 8. School and work 9. Graduating college 10. Writing 11. Developing friendships 12. Developing romantic relationships 13. Walking more than one block 14. Aerobic exercise 15. Weight lifting 16. Discernment about what to eat and which supplements to take 17. Being attractive to others 18. Showering regularly 19. Brushing my teeth twice a day 20. Changing my clothes 21. Dressing nicely 22. Understanding my own experiences and being able to communicate them 23. Empathy for others 24. Intuition 25. Grasping and formulating complex concepts 26. Teaching others from my experiences 27. Yoga 28. Doing artwork 29. Dancing 30. Singing 31. Computer skills 32. Awareness of some current events 33. Appreciation of music 34. Sexuality 35. Leaving the house and socializing 36. Meeting new people 37. Trying new things 38. Seeing a future 39. Caring about people 40. Caring about principles 41. Feeling sad 42. Feeling excited 43. Feeling calm 44. Being awake during most of the day. 45. Researching topics and discerning accurately what is relevant to me 46. Working for money 47. Committing to regular activities/classes/meetings 48. Falling in love 49. Having creative goals 50. Learning 51. Grocery shopping 52. Detangling my hair 53. Expressing my feelings 54. Doing my dishes 55. Cleaning 56. Being able to benefit from subtler health treatments like acupuncture, homeopathy and organic herbs 57. Eating healthy 58. Loving people 59. Attracting friends 60. Engaging socially and feeling (somewhat) “normal” 61. Caring what’s going on in the world/my city 62. Caring about other people’s needs and acknowledging them 63. Being able to talk about my life without using unproven “mental health” pseudoscience jargon 64. Being able to see fact from fiction 65. Writing down and finding meaning in my dreams 66. Smiling for real 67. Wanting to help others 68. Caring about my life, health and future 69. Praying 70. Believing in God/Higher Power/Angels/Being guided 71. Having faith in myself and my life 72. Inspiring trust in others 73. Inspiring creativity in others 74. Typing fast 75. Journaling 76. Shaving 77. Wearing deodorant 78. Regular menstruation 79. Awareness of moon cycles 80. Sexual arousal 81. Normal hair growth 82. Immunity 83. Cooking 84. Staying out of the house all day May all beings be free to choose, and to choose with true informed consent, which cannot be expected from a doctor or medical care provider, but must be gotten with a combination of research, self study, intuition, personal accounts and fierce, unbiased logical analysis. We must take back science from under the fist of commercials and indirect advertising.
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