Ecoer Logo
VOTING POWER100.00%
DOWNVOTE POWER100.00%
RESOURCE CREDITS100.00%
REPUTATION PROGRESS61.31%
Net Worth
0.000USD
STEEM
0.000STEEM
SBD
0.000SBD
Effective Power
1.201SP
├── Own SP
0.000SP
└── Incoming Deleg
+1.201SP

Detailed Balance

STEEM
balance
0.000STEEM
market_balance
0.000STEEM
savings_balance
0.000STEEM
reward_steem_balance
0.000STEEM
STEEM POWER
Own SP
0.000SP
Delegated Out
0.000SP
Delegation In
1.201SP
Effective Power
1.201SP
Reward SP (pending)
0.000SP
SBD
sbd_balance
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sbd_conversions
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Account Info

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savings_withdraw_requests0
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last_account_update2019-07-30T01:28:51
minedNo
sbd_seconds0
sbd_last_interest_payment1970-01-01T00:00:00
savings_sbd_last_interest_payment1970-01-01T00:00:00
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From Date
To Date
steemdelegated 1.201 SP to @belle-btc
2020/05/08 06:56:51
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2019/11/04 08:10:24
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2019/08/07 18:00:00
authorsteemcleaners
body[Source](https://theusafeed.com/bill-miller-hedge-fund-surges-46-thanks-to-bitcoin-amazon/) [Plagiarism](http://www.plagiarism.org/plagiarism-101/what-is-plagiarism/) is the copying & pasting of others work without giving credit to the original author or artist. Plagiarized posts are considered spam. Spam is discouraged by the community, and may result in action from the [cheetah bot](https://steemit.com/faq.html#What_is__cheetah). [More information and tips on sharing content.](https://steemcleaners.org/copy-paste-plagiarism/) If you believe this comment is in error, please contact us in [#disputes on Discord](https://discord.gg/YR2Wy5A)
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2019/08/05 11:30:09
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2019/08/05 07:08:18
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2019/08/05 07:08:09
authorbelle-btc
bodyWe can discuss bitcoin together, my whatapp+85251290766
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2019/08/05 07:08:00
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2019/08/05 07:07:42
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2019/08/05 07:07:03
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hatuflagged (-100.00%) @belle-btc / pvjrnm
2019/08/04 03:41:30
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hatuflagged (-100.00%) @belle-btc / pvjrqw
2019/08/04 03:39:54
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haturemoved vote from (0.00%) @belle-btc / pvjrqw
2019/08/04 03:39:42
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hatuflagged (-100.00%) @belle-btc / pvjrq9
2019/08/04 03:39:39
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hatuflagged (-100.00%) @belle-btc / pvjrp1
2019/08/04 03:39:24
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hatuflagged (-18.00%) @belle-btc / pvjrqw
2019/08/04 03:38:12
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2019/08/03 02:46:06
authorbelle-btc
bodywhat?
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2019/08/02 12:03:42
authorzainkhan97
body@@ -182,16 +182,21 @@ upvoted + you . can yo
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2019/08/02 12:03:21
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bodyhi @belle-btc i am also new in here can we just help each other to grow as every budy grows like this, no popular steemer will gona help us i am uploading blog every day @zainkhan97 upvoted. can you upvote and follow me back and comment on my post?
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2019/08/01 07:49:09
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bodyCute uncle, do you have an investment hobby?
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2019/07/30 09:01:54
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body![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmekaoNyyJJwPALpexs6rhaifQSFr1ApWkfo3B1ii18tRD/image.png) Swiss integrated cryptocurrency exchange Smart Valor has launched trading of four fiat currencies with Bitcoin (BTC) and Ether (ETH). Switzerland sees another crypto first As a blog post issued July 30 confirmed, Smart Valor, which combines exchange with custody and brokerage features, will continue to add new currencies on a monthly basis. The company is headquartered in the town of Zug, home of Switzerland’s Crypto Valley Association, and represents the first integrated exchange provider to launch in the country. “After 18 months of development, we are excited to go live with a core element of the SMART VALOR Platform — the exchange,” CEO Olga Feldmeier commented in the blog post. She added: “This brings us a huge step forward to our vision of becoming the world’s first security token exchange for alternative investments.” The initial pairs on offer for BTC and ETH are the Swiss franc, British pound sterling, euro and U.S. dollar. In future, pending receipt of the requisite license from Swiss authorities, Smart Valor will offer security tokens. “The roadmap for the next 6 months also includes long-term deposit of fiat money, CHF-based stable coin as well as trading and staking of exchange’s native cryptocurrency currency VALOR,” the blog post added. Crypto Valley turns up the heat The launch comes amid rapid progress for other Crypto Valley members. As Cointelegraph reported, finance app Aximetria gained a nationally-recognized Anti-Money Laundering (AML) license this week, while broker Bitcoin Suisse previous revealed it had applied for permission to act as a banking and securities dealer. Smart Valor’s custody service meanwhile saw it partner with France-based Ledger and the U.S.’s BitGo. Author: Anna Whatapp:+85251290766
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2019/07/29 01:52:33
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bodyHi! I am a robot. I just upvoted you! I found similar content that readers might be interested in: https://technologyshelter.com/index.php/2019/07/28/3-reasons-analysts-are-bullish-on-bitcoin-despite-33-price-correction/
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body![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmXnhbgMEq4zZLR9NpA7ruojY5dUU5gpPHivYdwNh22bWv/image.png) As Bitcoin dropped an additional 8% on Saturday, naysayers claim the rally to a new all-time high is over. So what is it that’s keeping market analysts bullish in the face of a 33 percent correction? Bitcoin price bears draw a line at $10,000 Bitcoin’s most recent price action has been less than satisfactory, unless you’re a bear. To date, the top digital asset is down 32% from it’s 2019 high of $13,739 and short term price action remains overwhelmingly bearish. Over the past two weeks Bitcoin formed an M-top at $13,739 and $13,177 before dropping to the neckline around $9,600. Most traders expect that Bitcoin will retrace to the 61.8% and 50% Fibonacci Retracement level which is also near the CME futures gap. It’s possible that the group think surrounding the CME gap is causing it to function as a magnet, drawing BTC price nearer to the $8,500 - $7,500 range. ![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmSCa5EaNHzGsis6LMdqoRa8U9oknuAYCZhgobHCiknhmq/image.png) Traders will also have noted that Bitcoin has dropped out of the broadening wedge that had carried it from $4,000 to the 2019 high and the parabolic trend is long negated, hence the probability of a revisit to the 61.8 Fib retracement. So, the short-term outlook is bearish. Yet several analysts across the sector remain extremely bullish on Bitcoin’s long-term price action. Let’s have a look at some of the key factors which are influencing their opinion. Dormant Bitcoin wallet address hit new all-time high Earlier this week Coin Metrics released a report showing Bitcoin’s untouched supply reaching a new all-time high of 21%. ![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmaoCsH1EUef1mTfXugwd1mNZPbAfpQQvUbDV5Q5dBSY6x/image.png) The amount of unmoved Bitcoin has increased significantly over the past five years and coins falling into this category have been held in the same wallet address for 180 days to 2 years. This suggests that Bitcoin is increasingly becoming a store of value rather than a medium of exchange. One could assume that if Bitcoin’s price continues to rise, so will the number of unmoved Bitcoin. Not everyone supports this conclusion, however. Adamant Capital founding partner Tuur Demeester countered saying that: “I'm not so sure [...] 5 years without updating your cold storage method is a long time in Bitcoin. Imo most of these coins are likely lost.” While Demeester could be right, taking a deeper look at the Coin Metrics chart shows that the number of untouched coins on the 1800-day and 1-year time frame has noticeably increased with compared against longer-time frames. This increase also aligns with Bitcoin’s price increase in U.S. dollars. Ultimately, the given report shows a correlation between increases in Bitcoin price and the amount of wallet addresses holding the digital asset as a store of value. Start of new bull markets coincides with miner capitulation, data shows On Saturday expert crypto-analyst PlanB tweeted a rather intriguing chart that he and ParabolicTrav worked on. ![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmUmm4hzgv1YNJCAU7XYtxAVFj5JGRxn62iV4WPBWRxcPK/image.png) According to the analysts, after a BTC/USD rally reaches its peak, a massive amount of Bitcoin is available at lower prices. The start of new Bitcoin bull markets have coincided with miner capitulation and Bitcoin price tends to rise from these bottoms to grow 100 times. According to PlanB: “We saw difficulty bottoms (miner capitulation) in Dec 2011 ($4.6), May 2015 ($230) and Dec 2018 ($3,896). Price continues to rise from these bottoms until ATH around 100x […] Implying a continuing uptrend until $370,000 ATH.” Closer investigation of the chart shows a reducing percentage rate of Bitcoin price gains from each successive rally and loose interpretation of the chart shows the current bullish trend maxing out around 1,000%. Cointelegraph reached out to PlanB for further clarification of this observation and PlanB explained: “It could be a sign of a maturing Bitcoin market with reduced volatility. More money is needed to move markets now than it was in 2010-2011. Or, it could just as easily be 100x again, because Bitcoin markets are nonlinear power law distributed with black swans normally occurring [as opposed] to being outliers.” Bitcoin’s current price action actually appears to be mirroring previous cycles and since bottoming in February, the digital asset has already rallied to the tune of 300%. Pre-halving hype could push Bitcoin towards $20,000 A few weeks ago popular crypto-analyst Filb Filb reached an identical conclusion. He is convinced that despite the current correction, Bitcoin price won’t revisit its 2019 low of $3,120. Filb Filb explained that: “Miners sell into market demand everytime the revenue per Bitcon rises above mining costs and he expects that they will ‘limit selling’ as the pre-halving event approaches to invoke the new halving bubble.” Simply put, the basic rules of supply and demand determine Bitcoin price and Filb Filb believes that “what happened in 2018 was miners selling off their Bitcoins at marginal costs.” “Only the most efficient miners survived, while their inefficient competitors got eliminated,” he added. Similar to PlanB and Parabolic Trav, Filb Filb agreed that miners are currently holding on to new mined Bitcoins as they await the 2020 halving event. If this group of crypto-analysts are correct, then we should begin to see miners selling fewer coins as Bitcoin price gains in the near future. Selling will then resume as buying pressure decreases. As for the future of Bitcoin’s price, this trio of analysts see BTC/USD following the general trajectory of short-term consolidation followed by pre-halving hype leading Bitcoin back to $20,000. ![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmP6QUTGM18gHLkZkgeD6d9ngSgHN3huVczURJeZory2Ek/image.png) 12 Month Forecast by Filb Filb In the event that Bitcoin does test its all-time high price, it’s entirely possible that long-term holders who purchased BTC near its ATH peak around $16,000 could exit their positions and produce a selloff. Of course, all of this is dependent on the digital asset’s technical setup as it approaches these highs. From a technical standpoint, the most likely scenario could involve continued decline until $7,500. This would be followed by a lengthy period of consolidation as reaccumulation takes place and Bitcoin’s daily price fluctuations tighten. But as the excitement around the 2020 halving event builds, most analysts expect miners and investors to hold onto their coins. Alongside the predicted influx of retail investors and the debut of institutional investing services from the likes of Bakkt, TD Ameritrade and Fidelity Investments, the stage could be set for a new all-time high.
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Let’s have a look at some of the key factors which are influencing their opinion. \n\nDormant Bitcoin wallet address hit new all-time high\nEarlier this week Coin Metrics released a report showing Bitcoin’s untouched supply reaching a new all-time high of 21%.\n![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmaoCsH1EUef1mTfXugwd1mNZPbAfpQQvUbDV5Q5dBSY6x/image.png)\nThe amount of unmoved Bitcoin has increased significantly over the past five years and coins falling into this category have been held in the same wallet address for 180 days to 2 years. This suggests that Bitcoin is increasingly becoming a store of value rather than a medium of exchange. One could assume that if Bitcoin’s price continues to rise, so will the number of unmoved Bitcoin. \n\nNot everyone supports this conclusion, however. Adamant Capital founding partner Tuur Demeester countered saying that: \n\n“I'm not so sure [...] 5 years without updating your cold storage method is a long time in Bitcoin. Imo most of these coins are likely lost.”\n\nWhile Demeester could be right, taking a deeper look at the Coin Metrics chart shows that the number of untouched coins on the 1800-day and 1-year time frame has noticeably increased with compared against longer-time frames. This increase also aligns with Bitcoin’s price increase in U.S. dollars. \n\nUltimately, the given report shows a correlation between increases in Bitcoin price and the amount of wallet addresses holding the digital asset as a store of value. \n\nStart of new bull markets coincides with miner capitulation, data shows\nOn Saturday expert crypto-analyst PlanB tweeted a rather intriguing chart that he and ParabolicTrav worked on.\n![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmUmm4hzgv1YNJCAU7XYtxAVFj5JGRxn62iV4WPBWRxcPK/image.png)\nAccording to the analysts, after a BTC/USD rally reaches its peak, a massive amount of Bitcoin is available at lower prices. The start of new Bitcoin bull markets have coincided with miner capitulation and Bitcoin price tends to rise from these bottoms to grow 100 times. \n\nAccording to PlanB:\n\n“We saw difficulty bottoms (miner capitulation) in Dec 2011 ($4.6), May 2015 ($230) and Dec 2018 ($3,896). Price continues to rise from these bottoms until ATH around 100x […] Implying a continuing uptrend until $370,000 ATH.” \n\nCloser investigation of the chart shows a reducing percentage rate of Bitcoin price gains from each successive rally and loose interpretation of the chart shows the current bullish trend maxing out around 1,000%. \n\nCointelegraph reached out to PlanB for further clarification of this observation and PlanB explained:\n\n“It could be a sign of a maturing Bitcoin market with reduced volatility. More money is needed to move markets now than it was in 2010-2011. Or, it could just as easily be 100x again, because Bitcoin markets are nonlinear power law distributed with black swans normally occurring [as opposed] to being outliers.”\n\nBitcoin’s current price action actually appears to be mirroring previous cycles and since bottoming in February, the digital asset has already rallied to the tune of 300%. \n\nPre-halving hype could push Bitcoin towards $20,000 \nA few weeks ago popular crypto-analyst Filb Filb reached an identical conclusion. He is convinced that despite the current correction, Bitcoin price won’t revisit its 2019 low of $3,120. \n\nFilb Filb explained that:\n\n“Miners sell into market demand everytime the revenue per Bitcon rises above mining costs and he expects that they will ‘limit selling’ as the pre-halving event approaches to invoke the new halving bubble.” \n\nSimply put, the basic rules of supply and demand determine Bitcoin price and Filb Filb believes that “what happened in 2018 was miners selling off their Bitcoins at marginal costs.”\n\n“Only the most efficient miners survived, while their inefficient competitors got eliminated,” he added.\n\nSimilar to PlanB and Parabolic Trav, Filb Filb agreed that miners are currently holding on to new mined Bitcoins as they await the 2020 halving event. \n\nIf this group of crypto-analysts are correct, then we should begin to see miners selling fewer coins as Bitcoin price gains in the near future. Selling will then resume as buying pressure decreases. \n\nAs for the future of Bitcoin’s price, this trio of analysts see BTC/USD following the general trajectory of short-term consolidation followed by pre-halving hype leading Bitcoin back to $20,000. \n![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmP6QUTGM18gHLkZkgeD6d9ngSgHN3huVczURJeZory2Ek/image.png)\n12 Month Forecast by Filb Filb\n\nIn the event that Bitcoin does test its all-time high price, it’s entirely possible that long-term holders who purchased BTC near its ATH peak around $16,000 could exit their positions and produce a selloff. \n\nOf course, all of this is dependent on the digital asset’s technical setup as it approaches these highs. From a technical standpoint, the most likely scenario could involve continued decline until $7,500. 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body![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmdiYFoFDDVCdHHjcPXbpStxdmux7ySv84gNEUXVfMgLs8/image.png) It’s hard to tell who was the first to coin — pun intended — Bitcoin (BTC) as “digital gold,” underlining the idea that Bitcoin is a good store of value. The phrase possibly came into more widespread use after The New York Times journalist Nathaniel Popper's book, "Digital Gold," was published in 2015. Google searches for the term “Bitcoin digital gold” peaked in December 2017, when the leading cryptocurrency’s price hit record highs around $20,000 per coin. For thousands of years of human history, people have used precious metals — namely copper, silver and gold — to fulfill the main functions of money: a unit of account, a medium of exchange and a store of value. Well before Bitcoin was born, computer scientist Nick Szabo wrote a proposal for “bit gold,” laying out a concept for secure digital money that is often referred to as Bitcoin’s predecessor. After 10 years of existence, the question of whether or not Bitcoin can in fact be considered “digital gold” continues to be debated in the industry. Yes, Bitcoin is designed to be scarce, but when discussing it as a potential store of value, many point to Bitcoin’s historical volatility as an argument against doing so. To see where we’re at with the debate today, we asked a variety of crypto and blockchain experts to revisit the question. Is Bitcoin a good store of value? Can it be considered “digital gold”? ![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmaG9sQP81soxyjeKBBwCG9TdDvCV88DXoXAtmsUh8qEx3/image.png) “Maybe it's too simple of an answer, but it just continues to be too unstable. Gold fluctuates, but it doesn't double its value over a short period of time. “I don't know if this is fake or not, but diamonds are abundant. And so, they really not of any value. But if you go to a store and you buy a diamond, it's expensive, right? And the way in which it retains value is scarce. It's supposed to be scarce. It looks beautiful, it's a particular shape, whatever. And one particular big diamond company, I believe, gathered up a lot of diamonds and dumped them in the sea to keep the price high, because if beautiful diamonds are available to everybody, then they drop in price very quickly and it's no longer a billion dollar market. I have no way to prove it, but I've read it on reliable sources. “The big question in crypto is: Can we enter a phase where it's stable? We have standards. It probably can't exist in the complete absence of regulation. That's kind of a nasty word to the cyber crypto marketplace. But, there probably — for some level of protection — needs to be some agreed regulations in national countries, but also globally. “So, until such a time when it is stable over a long period of time and is recognized by the largest amount of organizations and governments, I think it won't be able to be any gold or a stable asset class.” — Jonathan Reichental, CEO of Human Future, professor at UC Berkeley, Former chief information officer for the city of Palo Alto ![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmSkYcHPeFpw9P3vJzJZGXghj3WvjcvLzxUQXzuk2uCAfb/image.png) "Bitcoin is not gold. Gold is heavy, hard to carry around. Bitcoin is better." Changpeng Zhao, CEO of Binance ![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmNT6vQah94baZVLv7kC1sFftozsdcmwBLiHhkr7NtR9Sp/image.png) “Bitcoin might be the greatest store of value in the history of the world. Yes, it's volatile — as it's only been useful for about seven years — but its ‘unconfiscatability’ property is unmatched. That is its true store of value, as gold is confiscatable and all other assets even easier.” — Tone Vays, Trader and crypto analyst ![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmaG3tozcxuYnTckCmqozm9r6zYvRmGFzeTvDXJVQNUXkK/image.png) “When I asked my friend Dan Sokol if he owned any Bitcoin in 2016, he said: ‘F--- no, child. My heart couldn't take it.’ Dan is an old time Silicon Valley dude of some 40 years, now retired. Among the world's first hackers, Dan was a semiconductor engineer/serial inventor manager who took a copy of BASIC and gave out copies of it to hacker nerds, and said, ‘F--- with it, break it, and once you figure out how to fix it, tell the rest of us how you did it.’ It was one of the first events of open-source in Silicon Valley. “Even he told me he didn't want to risk owning Bitcoin. Until we stop valuing the short-term gain of trading on the volatility, it is a poor store of value, and not a currency. It's an excellent technology that provides a trustless system without a single point of failure. It is a technology with a philosophy — of transparency, decentralization, and a democratization of value. Ideally.” — Susan Oh, CEO of MKR AI and co-chair of Blockchain for Impact at the United Nations General Assembly ![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmYEeCa7xWTFsCL3hkLwqQSp8fjXvzt2k622gCAJJDVr9e/image.png) “The definition of a store of value is a bit circular: Something is a store of value if everybody believes it will still be valuable for a long time. “Gold is considered the ultimate store of value because it has been considered valuable for most of human history in most places (there are some exceptions), so there is a strong widespread belief that gold will remain valuable in the future no matter how politics might feasibly change. “With Bitcoin, the case that it is a store of value is much less clear. It's certainly conceivable that five-10 years from now, Bitcoin could have almost no value. “This is the economic definition, not the legal definition, which I'm not sure about.” — Joseph Bonneau Lecturer at New York University (course on crypto), Co-author of “Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency Technologies” ![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmWTqpynyvvAqjh7ZArhHnfd94wprhUrHK83gXfPhY24eC/image.png) “I’ve always maintained that Satoshi originally intended Bitcoin to be used for payments, not store of value. That said, he left Bitcoin, so the community is now in control — for better or worse. “Since its creation in 2008, Bitcoin has been in the process of becoming a digital commodity. By definition, a store of value can be a commodity that’s not perishable or subject to depreciation over time versus main reference assets, like national currencies or currency baskets. “There is typically a base level of demand in which a store of value’s price is not expected to drop below a certain level, with the possible exception of structural changes to the local or global economy. Essentially, stores of value are items in which the value does not decay over time, but can in fact also increase. “For Bitcoin to be a reliable medium of exchange, or ‘a currency,’ it needs to be stable, and have low volatility. In other words, people need to accept and hold Bitcoins because they are trusted and will not fluctuate in value. Ultimately, to become a currency, it’s about network effect and the demand for a commodity that is mathematically limited to a supply of 21 million units.” — Vinny Lingham, CEO of Civic ![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQme7NYHZrzhjzwg6EWHWEnjtsrY471tNXTLqmaQ5NCVZuK/image.png) “Over the course of the past 10 years, the number of people knowing about Bitcoin and owning some amount has gone from zero to several million. Is this number going to grow to hundreds of millions or billions of people over the course of the next 10 years? I believe that it will. “And, even discounting the eventual further appreciation of BTC against various national fiat currencies, its features will make it attractive as a store of value to an increasing amount of people. “Borderless, permissionless, portable — it is actually superior to gold. The current examples of people from countries like Venezuela will, over the years, be substituted by new ones. What will the citizens of the U.S. decide to do once the “petro-dollar” will cease to exist and a new geopolitical order emerge? Will they decide to trust Bitcoin in large numbers?” — David Orban, Advisor to Singularity University, Founder of Network Society Ventures ![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmWzC4sDV94KxRjiQd1kVuCubURKq3tNDvjXNbMj1t9oSN/image.png) Sonya Mann“I am skeptical that a ‘good store of value’ can be defined in the abstract. Whether Bitcoin meets the standard depends on what you're actually trying to accomplish through buying or hodling. What are your object-level goals, what properties are required to satisfy those goals, and does BTC have those properties? What are your other options, and how do the affordances of those options compare to BTC with respect to accomplishing your goals? In other words, what are your store-of-value priorities and which tradeoffs are you willing to make? Therein lies the answer. “Of course, it is possible to generalize about Bitcoin's suitability as a store of value. I've certainly seen people do it intelligently (for example, the back-and-forth in this Twitter thread). However, in my opinion, storing value is such a broad use case, pursued with so many different motivations and objectives, in so many different situations with idiosyncratically constrained local optima, that it's impossible to establish BTC as a ‘good store of value’ in any universal or definitive sense. “All of that said, Bitcoin is deflationary by nature, due to the capped 21 million supply and the clever incentive structure that has reliably safeguarded its inviolability. The emergent order governing Bitcoin, as both a software product and a phenomenon, is undeniably path-dependent, attributable in large part to Satoshi Nakamoto's design decisions. There is no guarantee that BTC will increase in value, but past trends and the underlying supply-demand dynamics suggest that it's a reasonable long-term prediction. “Anyway. Thoughts on ‘digital gold’... There are sufficient similarities between gold and Bitcoin, with respect to production economics and censorship-resistance, that ‘digital gold’ is a useful term — albeit primarily as a shortcut that conveys the gist of how BTC works and what it does. ‘Digital gold’ is quick and convenient in the same way that describing a startup as ‘Uber for whatever’ is quick and convenient. Is the comparison 100% accurate in a strictly literal sense? No, but we don't typically hold analogies to that standard. “A more precise question: ‘Does BTC share the properties of gold that have made gold attractive as a store of value?’ Here, again, the answer depends on a specific context. “Personally, I think that Bitcoin's lack of privacy and related lack of fungibility are serious drawbacks that undermine its censorship-resistance as well as users' other practical security needs. Teams like zkSNARKs have made significant and commendable progress in providing BTC users with more private options; I would like to see that continue. However, there is no substitute for future-proofed Layer 1 privacy, due to the probabilistic attacks to which decoy-based systems are vulnerable, and the rewards for successful high-stakes deanonymization.” Author: Anna whatapp+85251290766
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      "body": "![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmdiYFoFDDVCdHHjcPXbpStxdmux7ySv84gNEUXVfMgLs8/image.png)\nIt’s hard to tell who was the first to coin — pun intended — Bitcoin (BTC) as “digital gold,” underlining the idea that Bitcoin is a good store of value. The phrase possibly came into more widespread use after The New York Times journalist Nathaniel Popper's book, \"Digital Gold,\" was published in 2015. Google searches for the term “Bitcoin digital gold” peaked in December 2017, when the leading cryptocurrency’s price hit record highs around $20,000 per coin. \n\nFor thousands of years of human history, people have used precious metals — namely copper, silver and gold — to fulfill the main functions of money: a unit of account, a medium of exchange and a store of value. \n\nWell before Bitcoin was born, computer scientist Nick Szabo wrote a proposal for “bit gold,” laying out a concept for secure digital money that is often referred to as Bitcoin’s predecessor.\n\nAfter 10 years of existence, the question of whether or not Bitcoin can in fact be considered “digital gold” continues to be debated in the industry. Yes, Bitcoin is designed to be scarce, but when discussing it as a potential store of value, many point to Bitcoin’s historical volatility as an argument against doing so. \n\nTo see where we’re at with the debate today, we asked a variety of crypto and blockchain experts to revisit the question.\nIs Bitcoin a good store of value? Can it be considered “digital gold”?\n![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmaG9sQP81soxyjeKBBwCG9TdDvCV88DXoXAtmsUh8qEx3/image.png)\n\n“Maybe it's too simple of an answer, but it just continues to be too unstable. Gold fluctuates, but it doesn't double its value over a short period of time. \n\n“I don't know if this is fake or not, but diamonds are abundant. And so, they really not of any value. But if you go to a store and you buy a diamond, it's expensive, right? And the way in which it retains value is scarce. It's supposed to be scarce. It looks beautiful, it's a particular shape, whatever. And one particular big diamond company, I believe, gathered up a lot of diamonds and dumped them in the sea to keep the price high, because if beautiful diamonds are available to everybody, then they drop in price very quickly and it's no longer a billion dollar market. I have no way to prove it, but I've read it on reliable sources.\n\n“The big question in crypto is: Can we enter a phase where it's stable? We have standards. It probably can't exist in the complete absence of regulation. That's kind of a nasty word to the cyber crypto marketplace. But, there probably — for some level of protection — needs to be some agreed regulations in national countries, but also globally.\n\n“So, until such a time when it is stable over a long period of time and is recognized by the largest amount of organizations and governments, I think it won't be able to be any gold or a stable asset class.”\n\n— Jonathan Reichental,\n\n CEO of Human Future, professor at UC Berkeley,\n\n Former chief information officer for the city of Palo Alto\n\n![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmSkYcHPeFpw9P3vJzJZGXghj3WvjcvLzxUQXzuk2uCAfb/image.png)\n\n\"Bitcoin is not gold. Gold is heavy, hard to carry around. Bitcoin is better.\"\n\nChangpeng Zhao,\n\n CEO of Binance\n\n![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmNT6vQah94baZVLv7kC1sFftozsdcmwBLiHhkr7NtR9Sp/image.png)\n“Bitcoin might be the greatest store of value in the history of the world. Yes, it's volatile — as it's only been useful for about seven years — but its ‘unconfiscatability’ property is unmatched. That is its true store of value, as gold is confiscatable and all other assets even easier.”\n\n — Tone Vays,\n\nTrader and crypto analyst\n\n![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmaG3tozcxuYnTckCmqozm9r6zYvRmGFzeTvDXJVQNUXkK/image.png)\n\n“When I asked my friend Dan Sokol if he owned any Bitcoin in 2016, he said: ‘F--- no, child. My heart couldn't take it.’ Dan is an old time Silicon Valley dude of some 40 years, now retired. Among the world's first hackers, Dan was a semiconductor engineer/serial inventor manager who took a copy of BASIC and gave out copies of it to hacker nerds, and said, ‘F--- with it, break it, and once you figure out how to fix it, tell the rest of us how you did it.’ It was one of the first events of open-source in Silicon Valley. \n\n“Even he told me he didn't want to risk owning Bitcoin. Until we stop valuing the short-term gain of trading on the volatility, it is a poor store of value, and not a currency. It's an excellent technology that provides a trustless system without a single point of failure. It is a technology with a philosophy — of transparency, decentralization, and a democratization of value. Ideally.”\n\n — Susan Oh,\n\nCEO of MKR AI and co-chair of Blockchain for Impact\nat the United Nations General Assembly\n\n![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmYEeCa7xWTFsCL3hkLwqQSp8fjXvzt2k622gCAJJDVr9e/image.png)\n\n“The definition of a store of value is a bit circular: Something is a store of value if everybody believes it will still be valuable for a long time.\n\n“Gold is considered the ultimate store of value because it has been considered valuable for most of human history in most places (there are some exceptions), so there is a strong widespread belief that gold will remain valuable in the future no matter how politics might feasibly change.\n\n“With Bitcoin, the case that it is a store of value is much less clear. It's certainly conceivable that five-10 years from now, Bitcoin could have almost no value.\n\n“This is the economic definition, not the legal definition, which I'm not sure about.”\n\n — Joseph Bonneau\n\n Lecturer at New York University (course on crypto),\n Co-author of “Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency Technologies”\n![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmWTqpynyvvAqjh7ZArhHnfd94wprhUrHK83gXfPhY24eC/image.png)\n“I’ve always maintained that Satoshi originally intended Bitcoin to be used for payments, not store of value. That said, he left Bitcoin, so the community is now in control — for better or worse. \n\n“Since its creation in 2008, Bitcoin has been in the process of becoming a digital commodity. By definition, a store of value can be a commodity that’s not perishable or subject to depreciation over time versus main reference assets, like national currencies or currency baskets. \n\n“There is typically a base level of demand in which a store of value’s price is not expected to drop below a certain level, with the possible exception of structural changes to the local or global economy. Essentially, stores of value are items in which the value does not decay over time, but can in fact also increase. \n\n“For Bitcoin to be a reliable medium of exchange, or ‘a currency,’ it needs to be stable, and have low volatility. In other words, people need to accept and hold Bitcoins because they are trusted and will not fluctuate in value. Ultimately, to become a currency, it’s about network effect and the demand for a commodity that is mathematically limited to a supply of 21 million units.”\n  — Vinny Lingham,\n   CEO of Civic\n![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQme7NYHZrzhjzwg6EWHWEnjtsrY471tNXTLqmaQ5NCVZuK/image.png)\n\n“Over the course of the past 10 years, the number of people knowing about Bitcoin and owning some amount has gone from zero to several million. Is this number going to grow to hundreds of millions or billions of people over the course of the next 10 years? I believe that it will. \n\n“And, even discounting the eventual further appreciation of BTC against various national fiat currencies, its features will make it attractive as a store of value to an increasing amount of people.\n\n“Borderless, permissionless, portable — it is actually superior to gold. The current examples of people from countries like Venezuela will, over the years, be substituted by new ones. What will the citizens of the U.S. decide to do once the “petro-dollar” will cease to exist and a new geopolitical order emerge? Will they decide to trust Bitcoin in large numbers?”\n\n — David Orban,\nAdvisor to Singularity University,\nFounder of Network Society Ventures\n![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmWzC4sDV94KxRjiQd1kVuCubURKq3tNDvjXNbMj1t9oSN/image.png)\nSonya Mann“I am skeptical that a ‘good store of value’ can be defined in the abstract. Whether Bitcoin meets the standard depends on what you're actually trying to accomplish through buying or hodling. What are your object-level goals, what properties are required to satisfy those goals, and does BTC have those properties? What are your other options, and how do the affordances of those options compare to BTC with respect to accomplishing your goals? In other words, what are your store-of-value priorities and which tradeoffs are you willing to make? Therein lies the answer.\n\n“Of course, it is possible to generalize about Bitcoin's suitability as a store of value. I've certainly seen people do it intelligently (for example, the back-and-forth in this Twitter thread). However, in my opinion, storing value is such a broad use case, pursued with so many different motivations and objectives, in so many different situations with idiosyncratically constrained local optima, that it's impossible to establish BTC as a ‘good store of value’ in any universal or definitive sense.\n\n“All of that said, Bitcoin is deflationary by nature, due to the capped 21 million supply and the clever incentive structure that has reliably safeguarded its inviolability. The emergent order governing Bitcoin, as both a software product and a phenomenon, is undeniably path-dependent, attributable in large part to Satoshi Nakamoto's design decisions. There is no guarantee that BTC will increase in value, but past trends and the underlying supply-demand dynamics suggest that it's a reasonable long-term prediction.\n\n“Anyway. Thoughts on ‘digital gold’... There are sufficient similarities between gold and Bitcoin, with respect to production economics and censorship-resistance, that ‘digital gold’ is a useful term — albeit primarily as a shortcut that conveys the gist of how BTC works and what it does. ‘Digital gold’ is quick and convenient in the same way that describing a startup as ‘Uber for whatever’ is quick and convenient. Is the comparison 100% accurate in a strictly literal sense? 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body![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmbiPtb5Py2Go5QHRMz4gt39FbqwwDq4buPHGHzjyPC3om/image.png) The hedge fund of famous investor Bill Miller saw 46% growth in the first half of 2019, reportedly in some part from investing in Bitcoin (BTC). Citing an investor document, Bloomberg reports on July 26 that Miller achieved such outstanding results by investing in Bitcoin among other high-performing stocks. Alongside Bitcoin, other investments in the Miller’s fund reportedly include Amazon, security system firm ADT, as well as Avon Products. The 69 year-old investor reportedly found success by following a similar investment strategy as he used during his three-decade run at Legg Mason, which envisions investing in securities that trade at a large discount to their intrinsic value. According to Bloomberg, Miller’s fund has $126 million in assets, while Miller totally oversees $2.3 billion at his Baltimore-based firm. Additionally, the fund’s monthly performance has seen some volatility, having surged about 39% in June after dropping 29% the month before. Miller likes Bitcoin because it does not correlate to traditional markets Earlier this year, Miller claimed that Bitcoin can potentially have a high value or be worth nothing, considering the biggest cryptocurrency a curious technological experiment. At the time, Miller said that he is not a Bitcoin believer, but rather an observer, adding that he included crypto in his portfolio because there is no obvious correlation between crypto markets and the stock market. Yesterday, Galaxy Digital CEO Mike Novogratz predicted that institutional interest would push the Bitcoin price back to its all-time highs of $20,000 before the end of 2019. What do you think, I hope we can discuss together, my whatsapp + 85251290766
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      "body": "![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmbiPtb5Py2Go5QHRMz4gt39FbqwwDq4buPHGHzjyPC3om/image.png)\nThe hedge fund of famous investor Bill Miller saw 46% growth in the first half of 2019, reportedly in some part from investing in Bitcoin (BTC).\n\nCiting an investor document, Bloomberg reports on July 26 that Miller achieved such outstanding results by investing in Bitcoin among other high-performing stocks. Alongside Bitcoin, other investments in the Miller’s fund reportedly include Amazon, security system firm ADT, as well as Avon Products.\n\nThe 69 year-old investor reportedly found success by following a similar investment strategy as he used during his three-decade run at Legg Mason, which envisions investing in securities that trade at a large discount to their intrinsic value.\n\nAccording to Bloomberg, Miller’s fund has $126 million in assets, while Miller totally oversees $2.3 billion at his Baltimore-based firm. Additionally, the fund’s monthly performance has seen some volatility, having surged about 39% in June after dropping 29% the month before.\n\nMiller likes Bitcoin because it does not correlate to traditional markets\n\nEarlier this year, Miller claimed that Bitcoin can potentially have a high value or be worth nothing, considering the biggest cryptocurrency a curious technological experiment. At the time, Miller said that he is not a Bitcoin believer, but rather an observer, adding that he included crypto in his portfolio because there is no obvious correlation between crypto markets and the stock market.\n\nYesterday, Galaxy Digital CEO Mike Novogratz predicted that institutional interest would push the Bitcoin price back to its all-time highs of $20,000 before the end of 2019.\nWhat do you think, I hope we can discuss together, my whatsapp + 85251290766",
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2019/07/27 08:54:36
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2019/07/27 08:53:57
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2019/07/27 02:27:51
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2019/07/27 02:27:42
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2019/07/27 01:51:51
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bodyHey there @belle-btc, welcome to STEEM. If you join @schoolofminnows, you can receive votes for free. 1. Your post will appear in post-promotion on the discord. 2. Your posts will also get featured on the school of minnows account on steem https://steemit.com/@schoolofminnows 3. You get votes from other members. 4. The whole thing is FREE. To join follow this link: https://steem.host/connect/steempunks
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2019/07/27 01:51:45
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body![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmV9iMCcEKi41QN2tFdUyqcZoMjAAmJoSvbFDzkWFjye5R/image.png) Pantera Capital founder Dan Morehead discussed how Bitcoin (BTC) could hit $42,000 by the end of 2019, and even has the potential to reach $356,000 within a couple years. Morehead delivered his comments on an episode of the Unchained podcast on July 23. Morehead specifically said that he predicts BTC will hit $42,000 by the end of the year, and climb to $356,000 by 2022. Morehead claimed that this would be consistent with the top cryptocurrency’s logarithmic growth rate: “Graph the price of Bitcoin logarithmically [...] its trend is going to grow at 235% compound annual growth rate and [...] that put Bitcoin at $42,000 at the end of 2019. And I know this sounds crazy but we’re essentially halfway back there. [...] I think it’s a good shot that by the end of the year we hit that. And if you just extrapolate that line out for another year it’s $122,000 per Bitcoin and then one more year, $356,000.” What is your opinion, I hope we can discuss together, my whatsapp + 85251290766
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